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Basic Information

In-Game Description

Overview

Effects

Availability

Notes

In-Game Art

Merchants

Great Lake Effect Values

Great Lake & Lake Runes Effect Synergy

Great Lake & Arcane/Dissipating/Fading Lake Effects Synergy

Basic Information

Name	Tier	Effect	No. Held	Stored	Availability	Special Note
Great Lake	1	All DMG reduction +3%	- / 1	- / -	Lower Hintertomb Root Chalice	A "Lake" rune. Increases all types of damage reduction
Great Lake	2	All DMG reduction +4%	- / 1	- / -	Upper Cathedral Ward	A "Lake" rune. Increases all types of damage reduction
Great Lake	3	All DMG reduction +5%	- / 1	- / -	Isz Root Chalice	A "Lake" rune. Increases all types of damage reduction

Great Lake ❘ 「大いなる湖」	Caryll Rune

In-Game Description

A Caryll rune that transcribes inhuman sounds.

This transcription of the Great Ones' inhuman voices ripples
like a watery reflection. This rune means "Lake," and those
who memorize it enjoy general reduced damage.

Great volumes of water serve as a bulwark guarding sleep,
and an augur of the eldritch Truth.

Overcome this hindrance, and seek what is yours.

Note 1: The same in-game description in US & UK versions. ✓
Note 2: Original Japanese text on Original Japanese Item Index page. ✓

Overview

Caryll Runes are special items that you can attach to your character at the workshop in the Hunter's Dream. You can use up to four at onetime, and they provide a variety of very helpful effects. Use them tactically depending on the environments you plan to explore and the enemies you expect to face.

Before you can make use of Runes, you'll need the Rune Workshop Tool. This is found in Hemwick after defeating the Witch of Hemwick. After you have the tool, approach the Memory Altar in the Workshop and press X to equip Runes in your memory slots. You have three normal Memory Slots for basic runes, and a fourth "Oath Memory" slot. The basic runes are for use with normal Caryll Runes, and the Oath Memory slot is for Oath Runes only. Some runes have up to three different ranks, with higher ranked runes having more powerful effects.

Beware if you sell any Caryll Rune they will NOT respawn in New Game Plus.

Effects

Great Lake reduces the damage you take from all damage types. Against enemy attacks that deal more than one type of damage, Great Lake is very useful. It can simultaneously reduce both types of damage. In the main game, there aren't that many enemies that fall into this category. In PvP other players who wield weapons like the Burial Blade, Blade of Mercy, Tonitrus, or Logarius' Wheel will find their attacks to be less effective against you. Usually, though, it's better to use one of the more specific Lake Runes.

Availability

Tier (1): Treasure in (Root Dungeons): Lower Hintertomb; 8jv9v6bc, Sinister Lower Hintertomb L1, bonus area before layer boss [tested May 12, 2020]

Tier (2): Treasure in (Main Story): Upper Cathedral Ward, Statue Balcony to the right of the main gate

Tier (3): Treasure in (Root Dungeons): Isz Gravestone; 7fwgga2i, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1, side area before layer lamp [tested May 12, 2020], dry39ytc, F/R Isz Gravestone L1] [tested May 12, 2020]; alternatively found in False Depth Dungeon, emhiqpp3, Isz Gravestone L1, side area before layer lamp [tested May 12, 2020]

Notes

Unique Coffin Item Treasure (available) in (Root Dungeons): Great Lake +3% in Lower Hintertomb [All Layers] and Sinister Hintertomb [All Layers] and Great Lake +5% in Isz Gravestone [All Layers] and Sinister Isz Gravestone [All Layers], could be found in each bonus room and can only be looted once. For entire unique items list of each chalice follow to the Unique Items in Chalice Dungeons wiki page.

One of the five Lake Caryll Runes, the other four are Lake, Arcane Lake, Dissipating Lake and Fading Lake.

Clothing Defense is a PERCENTAGE reduction AFTER Physical DEF is applied. "Every 10 points of resistance is 1% damage reduction." Each type is specific and separate in this category. The entry for "Physical" (read as, Physical damage that's not specifically Thrust or Blunt) doesn't apply to Thrust or Blunt damage, as they each have their own separate numbers. Separate items of clothing stack multiplicatively, rather than additively like you might expect. Hat, chest, arms, legs of 50, 100, 40, 40 respectively for example, would yield 212, or 1000 * (1 - (.95 * .9 * .96 * .96)), rather than 230. Caryll Runes that affect damage resistance stack on top of your Clothing Defense. Note that the "Physical" defense rune increases Physical, Thrust, Blunt, and Blood. "Arcane" only affects Arcane, but not Bolt and Fire, which each have their own rune. These also stack multiplicatively on top of clothing (and each-other). A 5% rune would be like adding a clothing item with 50 defense in that category. In the example above, you'd go from 212 to 251 with a +5% rune. More information can be found in damage reduction page.

In-Game Art

Merchants (1)

Shop	Buy (Day)	(Evening)	(Night)	(Red Moon)	(NG+)	Sell	Requirement
Bath Messengers [Hunter's Dream]	-	-	-	-	-	10	None
Insight Bath Messengers [Hunter's Dream]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None
Chalice Bath Messengers [Chalice Dungeons Common]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None
Patches, the Spider [Chalice Dungeons Rare]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None

Merchants (2)

Shop	Buy (Day)	(Evening)	(Night)	(Red Moon)	(NG+)	Sell	Requirement
Bath Messengers [Hunter's Dream]	-	-	-	-	-	20	None
Insight Bath Messengers [Hunter's Dream]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None
Chalice Bath Messengers [Chalice Dungeons Common]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None
Patches, the Spider [Chalice Dungeons Rare]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None

Merchants (3)

Shop	Buy (Day)	(Evening)	(Night)	(Red Moon)	(NG+)	Sell	Requirement
Bath Messengers [Hunter's Dream]	-	-	-	-	-	30	None
Insight Bath Messengers [Hunter's Dream]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None
Chalice Bath Messengers [Chalice Dungeons Common]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None
Patches, the Spider [Chalice Dungeons Rare]	-	-	-	-	-	-	None

Great Lake Effect Values

Effect	Stacking			Types	Value	Added	SE	Value	Added	SE	Value	Added	SE	Value	Added	SE	Value	Added	SE
Base	-	-	-		0	0	-	50	0	-	100	0	-	150	0	-	200	0	-
3%	3%	-	-	All DMG	30	+30	-	78	+28	-	127	+27	-	175	+25	-	224	+24	-
4%	-	4%	-	All DMG	40	+40	-	88	+38	-	136	+36	-	184	+34	-	232	+32	-
5%	-	-	5%	All DMG	50	+50	-	97	+47	-	145	+45	-	192	+42	-	240	+40	-
7%	3%	4%	-	All DMG	68	+68	-2	115	+65	-1	161	+61	-2	208	+58	-1	255	+55	-1
8%	3%	-	5%	All DMG	78	+78	-2	124	+74	-1	170	+70	-2	216	+66	-1	262	+62	-2
9%	-	4%	5%	All DMG	88	+88	-2	133	+83	-2	179	+79	-2	224	+74	-2	270	+70	-2
12%	3%	4%	5%	All DMG	115	+115	-5	159	+109	-4	203	+103	-5	248	+98	-3	292	+92	-4
Note: Base is value of starting DMG reduction. Values when single rune is equipped are calculated as follows, for example for effect 5% when base 0, 10000.05=50; when base is 100 it's 1000-100=900 ► 9000.05=45 ► 100+45=145; when you are naked (base 0) you get 1000 and every DMG reduction (attire) you equip lowers the number (1000)
SE: Stacking Effect; SE is in case of DMG reduction runes negative, if we take example of base 0, by simply adding values of all three Great Lake runes 30+40+50 we get 120 when all Great Lake runes are equipped, but in-game we get real value 115. It's based on formula which is used to calculate DMG reduction and its interaction with SE, *Runes stack multiplicatively: 1000(1-(0.970.960.95))=115.36*; 10000.03=30 ► 1000-30=970 ► 9700.04=38.80 ► 970-38.80=931.20 ► 931.200.05=46.56 ► now add up all three values 30+38.80+46.56=115.36

Great Lake & Lake Runes Effect Synergy

Effect	Great Lake			Lake			Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE
Base	-	-	-	-	-	-	0	0	-	50	0	-	100	0	-	150	0	-	200	0	-
17%	-	-	5%	-	5%	7%	160	+160	-10	202	+152	-8	244	+144	-9	286	+136	-9	328	+128	-8
16%	-	4%	-	-	5%	7%	151	+151	-9	194	+144	-7	236	+136	-8	279	+129	-8	321	+121	-7
16%	-	4%	5%	-	-	7%	151	+151	-9	194	+144	-6	236	+136	-8	279	+129	-7	321	+121	-7
15%	3%	-	-	-	5%	7%	143	+143	-7	185	+135	-6	228	+128	-7	271	+121	-7	314	+114	-6
15%	-	-	5%	3%	-	7%	143	+143	-7	185	+135	-6	228	+128	-7	271	+121	-7	314	+114	-6
15%	3%	-	5%	-	-	7%	143	+143	-7	185	+135	-6	228	+128	-7	271	+121	-6	314	+114	-6
14%	-	4%	-	3%	-	7%	133	+133	-7	177	+127	-5	220	+120	-6	263	+113	-7	307	+107	-5
14%	3%	4%	-	-	-	7%	133	+133	-7	177	+127	-5	220	+120	-6	263	+113	-6	307	+107	-5
14%	-	4%	5%	-	5%	-	133	+133	-7	176	+126	-6	220	+120	-6	263	+113	-6	307	+107	-5
13%	3%	-	-	3%	-	7%	124	+124	-6	168	+118	-4	212	+112	-5	256	+106	-5	300	+100	-4
13%	-	-	5%	3%	5%	-	124	+124	-6	168	+118	-4	212	+112	-5	255	+105	-6	299	+99	-5
13%	3%	-	5%	-	5%	-	124	+124	-6	168	+118	-4	212	+112	-5	255	+105	-5	299	+99	-5
12%	-	4%	-	3%	5%	-	115	+115	-5	159	+109	-4	203	+103	-5	248	+98	-5	292	+92	-4
12%	-	-	5%	-	-	7%	116	+116	-4	160	+110	-3	204	+104	-4	249	+99	-3	293	+93	-3
12%	3%	4%	-	-	5%	-	115	+115	-5	159	+109	-4	203	+103	-5	248	+98	-4	292	+92	-4
12%	-	4%	5%	3%	-	-	115	+115	-5	159	+109	-4	203	+103	-5	248	+98	-4	292	+92	-4
11%	3%	-	-	3%	5%	-	106	+106	-4	150	+100	-3	195	+95	-4	240	+90	-4	285	+85	-3
11%	-	4%	-	-	-	7%	107	+107	-3	151	+101	-3	196	+96	-3	241	+91	-3	286	+86	-2
11%	3%	-	5%	3%	-	-	106	+106	-4	150	+100	-3	195	+95	-4	240	+90	-3	285	+85	-3
10%	3%	-	-	-	-	7%	97	+97	-3	143	+93	-1	188	+88	-2	233	+83	-2	278	+78	-2
10%	-	-	5%	-	5%	-	97	+97	-3	142	+92	-2	187	+87	-3	232	+82	-3	278	+78	-2
10%	3%	4%	-	3%	-	-	96	+96	-4	141	+91	-3	187	+87	-3	232	+82	-3	277	+77	-3
9%	-	4%	-	-	5%	-	88	+88	-2	133	+83	-2	179	+79	-2	224	+74	-3	270	+70	-2
8%	3%	-	-	-	5%	-	78	+78	-2	124	+74	-1	170	+70	-2	216	+66	-2	263	+63	-1
8%	-	-	5%	3%	-	-	78	+78	-2	124	+74	-1	170	+70	-2	216	+66	-2	263	+63	-1
7%	-	4%	-	3%	-	-	68	+68	-2	115	+65	-1	161	+61	-2	208	+58	-2	255	+55	-1
6%	3%	-	-	3%	-	-	59	+59	-1	106	+56	0	153	+53	-1	200	+50	-1	247	+47	-1
Note: Value column includes all Lake runes types of DMG reduction: Phys., Thrust, Blunt and Blood. Values of all Great Lake and Lake runes are interchangeable if you have Great Lake rune +5% and Lake rune +5%, the values will be the same. Therefore for example for effect 5% when base 0, 10000.05=50; when base is 100 it's 1000-100=900 ► 9000.05=45 ► 100+45=145 which applies to both runes; this is why the best setups of any Lake runes are ones with the most overall percentages; when you are naked (base 0) you get 1000 and every DMG reduction (attire) you equip lowers the number (1000)
SE: Stacking Effect; SE is in case of DMG reduction runes negative, if we take example of base 0, by simply adding all three values of the best setup for this base 50+50+70 we get 170 when +5% Great Lake and +5% & +7% Lake runes are equipped, but in-game we get real value 160. It's based on formula which is used to calculate DMG reduction and its interaction with SE, *Runes stack multiplicatively: 1000(1-(0.950.950.93))=160.67*; 10000.05=50 ► 1000-50=950 ► 9500.05=47.50 ► 950-47.50=902.50 ► 902.500.07=63.17 ► now add up all three values 50+47.50+63.17=160.67

Great Lake & Arcane/Dissipating/Fading Lake Effects Synergy

Effect	Great Lake			Arc./Diss./Fading Lake			Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE	Val.	+	SE
Base	-	-	-	-	-	-	0	0	-	50	0	-	100	0	-	150	0	-	200	0	-
22%	-	-	5%	-	7%	10%	204	+204	-16	244	+194	-14	284	+184	-14	324	+174	-12	364	+164	-12
21%	-	4%	-	-	7%	10%	196	+196	-14	236	+186	-13	276	+176	-13	317	+167	-11	357	+157	-11
20%	3%	-	-	-	7%	10%	188	+188	-12	228	+178	-11	269	+169	-11	309	+159	-10	350	+150	-10
20%	-	-	5%	5%	-	10%	187	+187	-13	228	+178	-11	268	+168	-12	309	+159	-10	350	+150	-10
19%	-	4%	-	5%	-	10%	179	+179	-11	220	+170	-10	261	+161	-10	302	+152	-9	343	+143	-9
19%	-	4%	5%	-	-	10%	179	+179	-11	220	+170	-10	261	+161	-10	302	+152	-9	343	+143	-9
18%	3%	-	-	5%	-	10%	170	+170	-10	212	+162	-8	253	+153	-9	295	+145	-7	336	+136	-8
18%	3%	-	5%	-	-	10%	170	+170	-10	212	+162	-8	253	+153	-9	295	+145	-7	336	+136	-8
17%	-	-	5%	5%	7%	-	160	+160	-10	202	+152	-8	244	+144	-9	286	+136	-7	328	+128	-8
17%	3%	4%	-	-	-	10%	161	+161	-9	203	+153	-8	245	+145	-8	287	+137	-7	329	+129	-7
16%	-	4%	-	5%	7%	-	151	+151	-9	194	+144	-7	236	+136	-8	279	+129	-6	321	+121	-7
16%	-	4%	5%	-	7%	-	151	+151	-9	194	+144	-7	236	+136	-8	279	+129	-6	321	+121	-7
15%	3%	-	-	5%	7%	-	143	+143	-7	185	+135	-6	228	+128	-7	271	+121	-5	314	+114	-6
15%	-	-	5%	-	-	10%	145	+145	-5	187	+137	-5	230	+130	-5	273	+123	-4	316	+116	-4
15%	3%	-	5%	-	7%	-	143	+143	-7	185	+135	-6	228	+128	-7	271	+121	-5	314	+114	-6
14%	-	4%	-	-	-	10%	136	+136	-4	179	+129	-4	222	+122	-4	265	+115	-4	308	+108	-4
14%	3%	4%	-	-	7%	-	133	+133	-7	177	+127	-5	220	+120	-6	263	+113	-5	307	+107	-5
14%	-	4%	5%	5%	-	-	133	+133	-7	176	+126	-6	220	+120	-6	263	+113	-5	307	+107	-5
13%	3%	-	-	-	-	10%	127	+127	-3	170	+120	-3	214	+114	-3	257	+107	-3	301	+101	-3
13%	3%	-	5%	5%	-	-	124	+124	-6	168	+118	-4	212	+112	-5	255	+105	-4	299	+99	-5
12%	-	-	5%	-	7%	-	116	+116	-4	160	+110	-3	204	+104	-4	249	+99	-2	293	+93	-3
12%	3%	4%	-	5%	-	-	115	+115	-5	159	+109	-4	203	+103	-5	248	+98	-3	292	+92	-4
11%	-	4%	-	-	7%	-	107	+107	-3	151	+101	-3	196	+96	-3	241	+91	-2	285	+85	-3
10%	3%	-	-	-	7%	-	97	+97	-3	143	+93	-1	188	+88	-2	233	+83	-1	278	+78	-2
10%	-	-	5%	5%	-	-	97	+97	-3	142	+92	-2	187	+87	-3	232	+82	-2	278	+78	-2
9%	-	4%	-	5%	-	-	88	+88	-2	133	+83	-2	179	+79	-2	224	+74	-2	270	+70	-2
8%	3%	-	-	5%	-	-	78	+78	-2	124	+74	-1	170	+70	-2	216	+66	-1	262	+62	-2
Note: Value column includes all Elemental Lake runes types of DMG reduction: Arc., Bolt and Fire. Values of all Great Lake and Arcane/Dissipating/Fading Lake runes are interchangeable if you have Great Lake rune +5% and Arcane/Dissipating/Fading Lake rune +5%, the values will be the same. Therefore for example for effect 5% when base 0, 10000.05=50; when base is 100 it's 1000-100=900 ► 9000.05=45 ► 100+45=145 applies to all runes; this is why the best setups of any Elemental Lake runes are ones with the most overall percentages, in interaction of Great Lake and Elemental Lake runes the best setup is to swap +5% elemental rune with +5% Great Lake rune since you get the same value for elemental DMG reduction while also benefitting from increase of all other DMG reductions.; when you are naked (base 0) you get 1000 and every DMG reduction (attire) you equip lowers the number (1000)
SE: Stacking Effect; SE is in case of DMG reduction runes negative, if we take example of base 0, by simply adding all three values of the best setup for this base 50+70+100 we get 220 when +5% Great Lake and +7% & +10% Arcane/Dissipating/Fading Lake runes are equipped, but in-game we get real value 204. It's based on formula which is used to calculate DMG reduction and its interaction with SE, *Runes stack multiplicatively: 1000(1-(0.950.930.90))=204.85*; 10000.05=50 ► 1000-50=950 ► 9500.07=66.50 ► 950-66.50=883.50 ► 883.500.10=88.35 ► now add up all three values 50+66.50+88.35=204.85

Related Wiki Pages (In Alphabetical Order)
Altar of Despair
Arcane Lake
Builds
Caryll Runes
Completionist Guide
Dialogue Reference
Dissipating Lake
Fading Lake
HEX ID's Archive
Chalice Glyphs
Challenge Runs
In-game Art - Caryll Runes
In-game Art - Caryll Runes [datamined]
Isz Glitch
Items
Lake
Laurence, the First Vicar
Progression Guide
Root Isz Gravestone
Root Lower Hintertomb
Root Pthumerian Labyrinth
Rune Workshop Tool
Save-editing Chalice Dungeons
Sinister Isz Gravestone
Treasures
Unique Items in Chalice Dungeons
Upper Cathedral Ward

Bloodborne & The Old Hunters Collector’s Edition Guides

Great Lake

Great Lake

Basic Information

Great Lake ❘ 「大いなる湖」

Caryll Rune

In-Game Description

Overview

Effects

Availability

Notes

In-Game Art

Merchants (1)

Merchants (2)

Merchants (3)

Great Lake Effect Values

Great Lake & Lake Runes Effect Synergy

Great Lake & Arcane/Dissipating/Fading Lake Effects Synergy