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Best Blood Gems Setups

Best Blood Gems Setups


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  • Best Blood Gems Setups
  • Best Physical Gem Setup
  • Best Gem Setup For Tonitrus, Logarius' Wheel, Holy Moonlight Sword, Boom Hammer, Amygdalan Arm & Kos Parasite
  • Best Elemental Gem Setups
  • Best Open Foes Setup
  • Best Rally Potential Setups
  • Best Striking Setups
  • Best Beast/Kin's Hunter Setups
  • Best Poison Setups
  • Best HP Regen Setup
  • HP Based ATK Boosting Setup
  • Bloodtinge Gems on Firearms
  • Notes
  • Best Blood Gems Setups using Edited Dungeons
  • Best Physical Gem Setup (STR, SKL and Quality builds)
  • Best Nourishing Gem Setup For Tonitrus, Logarius' Wheel, Holy Moonlight Sword, Boom Hammer, Amygdalan Arm, Blade of Mercy (hybrid builds)
  • Best Kos Parasite Setups
  • Best Elemental Gem Setups (ARC builds, converted weapons)
  • Best Striking (Charge ATK UP) setup
  • Best Beast/Kinhunter setups
  • Best Poison Setups
  • Best HP regen setup
  • Best Poorman's setup
  • Best Bloodtinge setups
  • Notes


Best Blood Gems Setups

Best Physical Gem Setup

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
STR Physical Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons) UPDATE: Post Patch v1.08
Physical Radial 20 Str scaling +65 + 2nd stat (+15 phys) Dropped by Headless Bloodletting Beast ksgqnycq, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Physical Radial 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (Boss) pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Physical Triangle 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Note: Some weapons benefit more from a second heavy abyssal gem over a second 27.2% phys radial.
Physical Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons)
Physical Radial x2 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (Boss) pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Physical Triangle 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Adept Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons)
Physical Radial x2 19 32.6% blunt/thrust Dropped by Watchers (Boss) pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Physical Triangle 19 32.6% blunt/thrust Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Best usage on Beast Cutter (full blunt), Church Pick (2h thrust), Kirkhammer (2H blunt), Rifle Spear (1H thrust), Tonitrus (full blunt), Wheel (1H blunt)

Best Gem Setup For Tonitrus, Logarius' Wheel, Holy Moonlight Sword, Boom Hammer, Amygdalan Arm & Kos Parasite

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Lost Tonitrus (in order to make the best use for the L1 buff)
Lost Tonitrus Radial 20 19.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Rom, the Vacuous Spider v5v5fpsd, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Lost Tonitrus Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 bolt Dropped by Amygdala y592byza, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L4
Lost Tonitrus Waning 20 21.5% atk + 15 bolt Dropped by Amygdala ske4igwv, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Lost Tonitrus (Alternative)
Lost Tonitrus Radial 17 19.3% atk + 8.1 phys Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L2 and L3, right after the layer lamp
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel (in order to make the best use for transformed dash R1 multihit)
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel Radial x2 17 10.9% blunt + 67.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (lever room) 8y2wes5u, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel Triangle 19 11.7% blunt + 72.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (Boss) huy83p9r, F/R/C Isz Gravestone
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel (Alternative)
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel Radial x2 17 9.1% phys + 67.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (lever room) 8y2wes5u, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel Triangle 19 9.8% phys + 72.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (Boss) huy83p9r, F/R/C Isz Gravestone
Lost Logarius´ Wheel (in order to make the best use for transformed revolutions L2 buff and overall 1H/2H moveset usage)
Lost Logarius´ Wheel Radial 20 19.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Rom, the Vacuous Spider v5v5fpsd, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Lost Logarius´ Wheel Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 arc Dropped by Amygdala y592byza, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L4
Lost Logarius´ Wheel Waning 20 21.5% atk + 2nd stat Dropped by Amygdala ske4igwv, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Lost Logarius´ Wheel (Alternative)
Lost Logarius´ Wheel Radial 17 19.3% atk + 8.1 phys Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L2 and L3, right after the layer lamp
Lost Holy Moonlight Sword (in order to make the best use for beams and overall moveset) [DLC]
Lost Holy Moonlight S. Radial 20 19.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Rom, the Vacuous Spider v5v5fpsd, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Lost Holy Moonlight S. Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Amygdala y592byza, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L4
Lost Holy Moonlight S. Waning 20 21.5% atk + 2nd stat Dropped by Amygdala ske4igwv, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Lost Holy Moonlight Sword (Alternative) [DLC]
Lost Holy Moonlight S. Radial 17 19.3% atk + 8.1 phys Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L2 and L3, right after the layer lamp
Lost Boom Hammer (in order to make the best use for the L1 buff) [DLC]
Lost Boom Hammer Radial 20 19.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Rom, the Vacuous Spider v5v5fpsd, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Lost Boom Hammer Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 fire Dropped by Amygdala y592byza, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L4
Lost Boom Hammer Waning 20 21.5% atk + 15 fire Dropped by Amygdala ske4igwv, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Lost Boom Hammer (Alternative) [DLC]
Lost Boom Hammer Radial 17 19.3% atk + 8.1 phys Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L2 and L3, right after the layer lamp
Normal Amygdalan Arm [DLC]
Amygdalan Arm Radial 20 Str scaling +65 + 15 phys Dropped by Headless Bloodletting Beast ksgqnycq, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Amygdalan Arm Radial 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (Boss) pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Amygdalan Arm Triangle 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Uncanny Kos Parasite (in order to make the best use for weapon´s multipliers and overall usage) [DLC]
Uncanny Kos Parasite Radial x2 18 23.1% arc + 14 arc Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters cb7jig9p, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Uncanny Kos Parasite Triangle 20 24.8% arc +15 arc Dropped by Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos e2ts7vub, C Isz Gravestone L3
Uncanny Kos Parasite (Alternative) [DLC]
Uncanny Kos Parasite Triangle 19 27.2% arc Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Uncanny Kos Parasite (in order to make the best use for L2 multi-hit attack) [DLC]
Uncanny Kos Parasite Radial x2 17 9.1% arc + 67.5 arc Dropped (very rarely) by Brainsucker (lever room) 8y2wes5u, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Uncanny Kos Parasite Triangle 19 9.8% arc + 72.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (Boss) huy83p9r, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Uncanny Kos Parasite (Alternative) [DLC]
Uncanny Kos Parasite Radial x2 17 9.1% phys + 67.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (lever room) 8y2wes5u, F/R/C Ihyll L1

Best Elemental Gem Setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Fire Setup (Lost Weapons) UPDATE: Post Patch v1.08
Cold Radial 20 Arc scaling +65 + 2nd stat Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kkvk8gsj, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Cold Triangle 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 fire Dropped by Isz Elder jemmjmpi, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L3
Fire Waning 20 24.8% fire + 15 fire Dropped by Watchdog of the Old Lords boss 758v8txa, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Lost Ludwig´s Holy Blade´s Fire Setup UPDATE: Post Patch v1.08
Cold Radial 20 Arc scaling +65 + 2nd stat Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kkvk8gsj, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Fire Triangle 19 27.2% fire Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Fire Waning 20 24.8% fire + 15 fire Dropped by Watchdog of the Old Lords 758v8txa, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Fire Setup (Lost Weapons Alternative)
Fire Waning 18 21% fire + 31.5 fire Dropped by red aura Labyrinth Madman ete2cbjc, F/R/C Lower Loran L3, Madman facing a wall right next to layer lamp
Note: Kirkhammer gets the exact same fire AR with both setups at 50arc
Bolt Setup (Lost Weapons) UPDATE: Post Patch v1.08
Bolt Radial 20 Arc scaling +65 + 2nd stat Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kkvk8gsj, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Cold Triangle 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 bolt Dropped by Isz Elder jemmjmpi, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L3
Bolt Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 33.8 bolt Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 6q77zr9h, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Lost Ludwig´s Holy Blade´s Bolt Setup UPDATE: Post Patch v1.08
Bolt Radial 20 Arc scaling +65 + 2nd stat Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kkvk8gsj, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Bolt Triangle 19 27.2% bolt Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Bolt Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 33.8 bolt Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 6q77zr9h, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Bolt Setup (Lost Weapons Alternative)
Bolt Waning 18 21% bolt + 31.5 bolt Dropped by red aura Labyrinth Madman ete2cbjc, F/R/C Lower Loran L3, Madman facing a wall right next to layer lamp
Arcane Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons) UPDATE: Post Patch v1.08
Arcane Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 2nd stat Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kkvk8gsj, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Arcane Triangle 19 27.2% arc Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1

Best Open Foes Setup

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Open Foes Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons)
Tempering Radial x2 18 21% phys + ATK vs open foes UP +12.6% Dropped by Labyrinth Madman 7enpbrta, F/R/C Ihyll L2, red aura Madman with its
back to you right next to lamp
Tempering Triangle 18 23.1% phys + ATK vs open foes UP + 5.6% Dropped by Beast-possessed Soul 5p6rzey7, F/R/C Ihyll L2, BPS right after layer lamp

Best Rally Potential Setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Physical Rally Setup (Lost Weapons)
Phys Rally Radial 18 23.1% phys + 2.8% rally Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters uq3masdd, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, Bone Ash Hunter showing her back located upstairs
Phys Rally Triangle 18 23.1% phys + 2.8% rally Dropped by Beast-possessed Soul uq3masdd, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, Beast Possessed Soul right after climbing stairs
Phys Rally Waning 18 21% phys + 6.3% rally Dropped by Labyrinth Madman phyptxe6, F/R/C Lower Loran L3, red aura Madman with its back to you right next to lamp
Note: since BAH and BPS´s gems have the same stats, this setup could also run two radials instead of radial and triangle, but BPS is easier to farm.
Bolt Rally Setup (Lost Weapons)
Bolt Rally Radial 18 23.1% bolt + 2.8% rally Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters uq3masdd, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, Bone Ash Hunter showing her back located upstairs
Bolt Rally Triangle 20 Arc scaling +65 + 3% rally Dropped by Isz Elder e2ts7vub, -/-/C Isz Gravestone L4
Bolt Rally Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 6.7% rally Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 6q77zr9h, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Bolt Rally (Lost Weapons Alternative)
Bolt Rally Waning 18 21% bolt + 6.3% rally Dropped by Labyrinth Madman phyptxe6, F/R/C Lower Loran L3, red aura Madman with its back to you right next to lamp

Best Striking Setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Striking Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons)
Striking Radial x2 19 Charge ATKs UP+ 36.3% Dropped by Watchers (Boss) pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Striking Triangle 18 Charge ATKs UP+ 30.8% + 2nd stat Dropped by Beast-possessed Soul 5p6rzey7, F/R/C Ihyll L2, BPS right after layer lamp

Best Beast/Kin's Hunter Setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Pure setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapon)
Hunter Radial x2 18 27.7% beasts/kin + 2nd stat Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Hunter Triangle 19 32.6% beasts/kin Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Pure setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons Alternative)
Hunter Radial 17 26.7% beasts/kin + 2nd stat Dropped by Cramped Caskets v3krwpyp, F/R/C Ihyll L3, side area before layer lamp, in a round room
Hunter Triangle 17 26.7% beasts/kin + 14 fire/bolt Dropped by Cramped Caskets fnh9ctui, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L3, 4 Cramped Caskets in a room
with Kirkhammer Hunter
Fire Weakness Setup (Lost Weapons)
Beasthunter Radial 18 27.7% beasts + 14 fire Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Beasthunter Triangle 19 32.6% beasts Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Beasthunter Waning 20 24.8% fire + 5.2% beasts (or 15 fire) Dropped by Watchdog of the Old Lords 758v8txa, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Fire Weakness Setup (Lost Weapons Alternative)
Beasthunter Triangle 19 27.2% fire Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Bolt Weakness Setup (Lost Weapons)
Kinhunter Radial 18 27.7% kin + 14 Bolt Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Kinhunter Triangle 19 32.6% kin Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Kinhunter Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 12.2% kin (or 33.8 bolt) Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 6q77zr9h, F/R/C Lower Loran L3
Bolt Weakness Setup (Lost Weapons Alternative)
Kinhunter Triangle 19 27.2% bolt Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Low Arcane Beasthunter Setup (Lost Weapons)
Beasthunter Radial 18 27.7% beasts + 14 fire Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Beasthunter Triangle 19 32.6% beasts Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Beasthunter Waning 17 9.1% fire + 67.5 fire Dropped by Loran Clerics wtxu2x2p, F/R/C Lower Loran L3, Loran Clerics in swamp area
Low Arcane Kinhunter Setup (Lost Weapons)
Kinhunter Radial 18 27.7% kin + 14 Bolt Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Kinhunter Triangle 19 32.6% kin Dropped by Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Kinhunter Waning 18 +77 bolt Coffin loot 39a5b7tc, F/R/C Lower Loran, coffin in L3, side area before layer lamp

Best Poison Setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Rapid poison Setup Dirty Gems (Lost Weapons)
Rapid Poison Radial 18 +18.4 rp + 2nd stat Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Rapid Poison Triangle 19 +21.7 rp Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Rapid Poison Waning 19 +19.1 rp + 2nd stat Dropped by Loran Silverbeast (Boss) enjids45, F/R/C Lower Loran L1
Rapid Poison Setup Dirty Gems (Lost Weapons Alternative)
Rapid Poison Radial 18 +11.7 rp + 2nd stat Dropped by Gravekeeper Scorpion (purple aura) pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L3, two in the pit area
Rapid Poison Triangle 19 +7.8 rp + 72.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (Boss) huy83p9r, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Slow Poison Setup Murky Gems (Lost Weapons)
Slow Poison Radial 18 +15.4 sp + 2nd stat Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Slow Poison Triangle 19 +18.1 sp Dropped by Isz Watchers (Boss) 5pwujscd, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1
Slow Poison Waning 19 +15.9 sp + 2nd stat Dropped by Loran Silverbeast (Boss) enjids45, F/R/C Lower Loran L1
Slow Poison Setup Murky Gems (Lost Weapons Alternative)
Slow Poison Radial 18 +14 sp + 2nd stat Dropped by Hunting Dog (purple aura) pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll L1, upstairs when going for the lever

Best HP Regen Setup

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Normal / Uncanny Weapons Setup
Pulsing Radial x2 18 HP continues to recover +5 + 2nd stat Dropped by Bone Ash Hunters 56428adr, F/R/C Lower Loran L1, 2 Bone Ash Hunters right after the layer lamp
Pulsing Waning 19 HP continues to recover +5 + 2nd stat Dropped by Loran Silverbeast (Boss) 6q77zr9h, F/R/C Lower Loran L2

HP Based ATK Boosting Setup

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Normal / Uncanny Weapons Setup
Poorman´s Radial x2 17 Phys. UP near death + 12.2% +27% Dropped by Labyrinth Spirits q6updq6g, F/R/C Ihyll L2, 2 Labyrinth Spirits in the bonus area before layer boss
Poorman´s Triangle 17 Phys. UP near death + 12.2% +27% Dropped by Labyrinth Spirits pckenae9, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1, Labyrinth Spirit in the bonus area before layer boss
Note 1: For an easier farming can go for regular 9.1% phys. atk up primary stat instead of poorman´s 12.2%
Note 2: Simon´s Bowblade is a good weapon for this setup since both phys. and blooodtinge scale with phys. gems and bow´s long range makes it more viable at critical HP (30%hp and below)

Bloodtinge Gems on Firearms

Firearm Bloodtinge Icon Gem Effects Bloodtinge Icon Gem Effects Notes
Hunter Pistol 5-45 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3 46-99 Blood ATK UP +31.5%
  • Attack values barely differ, by 1-2 in most cases and even at certain bloodtinge stats both gems get exactly the same attack values.
  • Hunter Blunderbuss and Ludwig´s Rifle are two firearms that benefit the most from flat bloodtinge secondary stat due to their low bloodtinge scaling justified by spread.
  • In practice Add blood ATK +7,3 , +7 and +6,8 secondary stats essentially give the same bloodtinge attack value boost.
Hunter Blunderbuss 5-99 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3
Ludwig´s Rifle 9-99 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3
Repeating Pistol 8-24 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3 25-99 Blood ATK UP +31.5%
Piercing Rifle 9-32 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3 33-99 Blood ATK UP +31.5%
Evelyn 18-34 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3 35-99 Blood ATK UP +31.5%
Gatling Gun 5-27 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3 28-99 Both gems get same attack values
Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Bloodtinge Circle 19 Blood ATK UP +28.7% + Add blood ATK +7.3 Dropped by Blood-starved Beast jvz8469j, F/R/C Lower Loran L1
Bloodtinge Circle 18 Blood ATK UP +31.5% Dropped by Merciless Watcher (Scattergun) y592byza, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1, guarding coffin in
the side area before layer lamp

Notes

  • Not considering Out-Of-Shape gems
  • The Arcanist Cookbook (Endgame Weapon Gemming Guide)

Best Blood Gems Setups using Edited Dungeons [source]
  • This section lists save-edited dungeons with modified gem effect pools for improved drop rates of non-fixed gem effects and effects that would be normally very hard to farm. "Note: In some of these glyphs you'll encounter a message after beating a boss that says "Unable to acquire "item/?GoodsName?" due to inventory/storage max". This message is a side effect of save-editing and it's absolutely harmless.

Best Physical Gem Setup (STR, SKL and Quality builds)

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Physical Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons, Burial Blade, Blade of Mercy)
Tempering Radial x2 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (boss) zkkuat7j, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Tempering Triangle 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (boss) zbc6bqes, F/R/C Isz L1
Physical Setup, Tempering Abyssal alternative (Normal/Uncanny Weapons)
Tempering Abyssal Radial x2 20 24.8% phys +15 phys Dropped by Bloodletting Beast j37wapj3, F/C Ihyll L3
Tempering Triangle 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (boss) zbc6bqes, F/R/C Isz L1
STR Physical Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons)
Heavy Abyssal Radial 20 Str scaling +65 +15 phys Dropped by Headless Bloodletting Beast zkkuat7j, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Tempering Radial 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (boss) zkkuat7j, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Tempering Triangle 19 27.2% phys Dropped by Watchers (boss) zbc6bqes, F/R/C Isz L1
Adept Setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons; thrust: transformed Church Pick, blunt: Boom Hammer, transformed Kirkhammer, Beast Cutter, transformed Ludwig's Holy Blade)
Adept Radial x2 19 32.6% blunt/thrust Dropped by Watchers (boss) zkkuat7j, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Adept Triangle 19 32.6% blunt/thrust Dropped by Watchers (boss) zbc6bqes, F/R/C Isz L1
Flat Physical Madman setup (for low BL)
Tempering Radial x2 18 21% phys + 18.2 phys Dropped by Labyrinth Madman s9k4dqvz, F/C Ihyll L1, near lamp
Tempering Waning 18 21% phys + 18.2 phys Dropped by Labyrinth Madman u9mb74p2, F/C Loran L1, 2nd room from lamp
Fool's Physical Madman setup (for PvE)
Tempering Radial x2 18 21% phys + 12% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman s9k4dqvz, F/C Ihyll L1, near lamp
Tempering Waning 18 21% phys + 12% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman u9mb74p2, F/C Loran L1, 2nd room from lamp

Best Nourishing Gem Setup For Tonitrus, Logarius' Wheel, HMS, Boom Hammer, Amygdalan Arm, Blade of Mercy (hybrid builds)

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Lost Tonitrus (in order to make the best use for the L1 buff)
Nourishing Abyssal Radial 20 19.5% atk + 15 bolt Dropped by Rom, the Vacuous Spider 593da6eg, F/C Ihyll L3
Nourishing Abyssal Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 bolt Dropped by Amygdala fivg3b73, F/R/C Isz L3
Nourishing Abyssal Waning 20 21.5% atk + 15 bolt Dropped by Amygdala bau36yx7, F/R/C Loran L3
Nourishing radial alternative (easier farm)
Nourishing Radial 17 19.3% atk + 8.1 phys Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity ca8pxpgb, F/R/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Nourishing Radial 17 19.3% atk + 13.5 bolt Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity gmcxyue6, F/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel (for transformed dash R1 multihit)
Adept /Tempering Radial x2 17 10.9% blunt / 9.1% phys + 67.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (mob) 4vr8f9b9, F/C Ihyll L1, cave under bridge
Adept /Tempering Triangle 19 11.7% blunt / 9.8% phys + 72.5 arc Dropped by Brainsucker (boss) fgetu6gy, F/C Isz L1
Uncanny Logarius´ Wheel (Nourishing alternative, rare drop)
Nourishing Radial x2 17 7.9% atk + 67.5 arcane Dropped by Brainsucker (mob) jbrfi85f, F/C Ihyll L1, cave under bridge
7ebbmq4z, F/TC* Ihyll L1, cave under bridge
Nourishing Triangle 19 8.5% atk + 72.5 arcane Dropped by Brainsucker (boss) a2hjx8xe, F/R/C Isz L1
Lost Logarius´ Wheel, Holy Moonlight Sword, Amygdalan Arm + Nourishing Blade of Mercy (best overall moveset usage)
Nourishing Abyssal Radial 20 19.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Rom, the Vacuous Spider v5v5fpsd, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Nourishing Abyssal Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Amygdala u7kwnzsa, F/R/C Isz L3
Nourishing Abyssal Waning 20 21.5% atk + 15 phys Dropped by Amygdala yqmb73dk, F/R/C Loran L3
Nourishing radial alternative (easier farm)
Nourishing Radial 17 19.3% atk + 8.1 phys Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity ca8pxpgb, F/R/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Lost Logarius´ Wheel, Holy Moonlight Sword, Amygdalan Arm + Nourishing Blade of Mercy (Arcane alternative)
Nourishing Radial 17 19.3% atk + 13.5 arcane Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity dsmpiyfb, F/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Nourishing Abyssal Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 arcane Dropped by Amygdala zhix9ex3, F/C Isz L3
Nourishing Abyssal Waning 20 21.5% atk + 15 arcane Dropped by Amygdala 6bua3e6v, F/C Loran L3
Lost Boom Hammer (for L2 buff)
Nourishing Abyssal Radial 20 19.5% atk + 15 fire Dropped by Rom, the Vacuous Spider 593da6eg, F/C Ihyll L3
Nourishing Abyssal Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 15 fire Dropped by Amygdala fivg3b73, F/R/C Isz L3
Nourishing Abyssal Waning 20 21.5% atk + 15 fire Dropped by Amygdala bau36yx7, F/R/C Loran L3
Nourishing radial alternatives (easier farm)
Nourishing Radial 17 19.3% atk + 8.1 phys Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity ca8pxpgb, F/R/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Nourishing Radial 17 19.3% atk + 13.5 fire Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity gmcxyue6, F/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Nourishing Fool's secondary setup (for PvE)
Nourishing Radial 17 19.3% atk + 4.3% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Lost Child of Antiquity dsmpiyfb, F/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Nourishing Abyssal Triangle 20 21.5% atk + 4.8% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Amygdala zhix9ex3, F/C Isz L3
Nourishing Abyssal Waning 20 21.5% atk + 4.8% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Amygdala 6bua3e6v, F/C Loran L3
Madman Nourishing Fool's setup (for PvE, rare drop)
Nourishing Radial x2 18 18.2% atk + 10.1% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman 2249ibye, F/TC* Ihyll L1, near lamp
Nourishing Waning 18 18.2% atk + 10.1% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman sw3bzug3, F/R/C Loran, 2nd room from lamp
Watchers Nourishing setup (Uncanny/Normal weapons, rare drop)
Nourishing Radial x2 19 23.6% atk Dropped by Watchers (boss) 67vp7kab, F/C Ihyll L1 (1% drop chance)
Nourishing Triangle 19 23.6% atk Dropped by Watchers (boss) yk23tm7k, F/C Isz L1 (1% drop chance)

Best Kos Parasite Setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Normal Parasite Madman setup
Arcane Radial x2 18 21% arcane + 31.5 arcane Dropped by Labyrinth Madman 2249ibye, F/TC* Ihyll L1, near lamp
Arcane Waning 18 21% arcane + 31.5 arcane Dropped by Labyrinth Madman sw3bzug3, F/R/C Loran, 2nd room from lamp
Uncanny Parasite Brainsucker setup (strongest transformed L2)
Arcane Radial x2 17 9.1% arcane + 67.5 arcane Dropped by Brainsucker (mob) jbrfi85f, F/C Ihyll L1, cave under bridge
7ebbmq4z, F/TC* Ihyll L1, cave under bridge
Arcane Triangle 19 9.8% arcane + 72.5 arcane Dropped by Brainsucker (boss) a2hjx8xe, F/R/C Isz L1
Uncanny Parasite Watchers setup
Arcane Radial x2 19 27.2% arcane Dropped by Watchers (boss) 67vp7kab, F/C Ihyll L1
Arcane Triangle 19 27.2% arcane Dropped by Watchers (boss) yk23tm7k, F/C Isz L1
Uncanny/Lost Parasite Arcane Abyssal alternative
Arcane Abyssal Triangle 20 24.8% arcane + 15 arcane Dropped by Ebrietas q2f8y9fh, F/C Isz L3

Best Elemental Gem Setups (ARC builds, converted weapons)

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Fire Setup for Normal/Uncanny weapons (Triangle setup)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 fire Dropped by Pthumerian Elder ei8rdnne, F/R/C Ihyll, L3
Fire Triangle 19 27.2% fire Dropped by Watchers (boss) 52btgiwp, F/R/C Loran, L1
Fire Setup for Normal/Uncanny weapons (Waning setup)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 fire Dropped by Pthumerian Elder ei8rdnne, F/R/C Ihyll, L3
Fire Abyssal Waning 20 24.8% + 15 fire Dropped by Watchdog xwxq37sf, F/R/C Loran, L3
Fire Setup (Lost Weapons)
Cold Abyssal Radial 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 fire Dropped by Pthumerian Elder ei8rdnne, F/R/C Ihyll, L3
Fire Triangle 19 27.2% fire Dropped by Watchers (boss) 52btgiwp, F/R/C Loran, L1
Cold Abyssal Waning 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 fire Dropped by Pthumerian Elder z7e2ucqu, F/R/C Loran L4
Bolt Setup for Normal/Uncanny weapons (Triangle setup)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 bolt Dropped by Pthumerian Elder ei8rdnne, F/R/C Ihyll, L3
Bolt Triangle 19 27.2% bolt Dropped by Watchers (boss) 52btgiwp, F/R/C Loran, L1
Bolt Setup for Normal/Uncanny weapons (Waning setup)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 bolt Dropped by Pthumerian Elder ei8rdnne, F/R/C Ihyll, L3
Bolt Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 33.8 bolt Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 3vveh4fm, F/R/C Loran, L3
Bolt Setup (Lost Weapons)
Cold Abyssal Radial 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 bolt Dropped by Pthumerian Elder ei8rdnne, F/R/C Ihyll, L3
Cold Abyssal Triangle 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 bolt Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 52btgiwp, F/R/C Loran, L3
Bolt Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 33.8 bolt Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 3vveh4fm, F/R/C Loran, L3
Arcane Setup for Normal/Uncanny weapons (Triangle setup)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 arcane Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 35phgy5e, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Arcane Triangle 19 27.2% arcane Dropped by Watchers (boss) yk23tm7k, F/C Isz L1
Arcane Setup for Normal/Uncanny weapons (Arcane abyssal alternative)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 arcane Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 35phgy5e, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Arcane Abyssal Triangle 20 24.8% arcane + 15 arcane Dropped by Ebrietas q2f8y9fh, F/C Isz L3
Arcane Setup (Lost Weapons)
Cold Abyssal Radial 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 arcane Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 35phgy5e, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Arcane Triangle 19 27.2% arcane Dropped by Watchers (boss) yk23tm7k, F/C Isz L1
Cold Abyssal Waning 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 arcane Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 9evjrixc, F/C Lower Loran
Arcane Fool's Nourishing setup (for PvE)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 4.8 atk UP at full HP Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 35phgy5e, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Arcane Waning 18 21% Arcane + 10.1% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman sw3bzug3, F/R/C Loran, 2nd room from lamp
Fire Fools Nourishing setup (for PvE)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 4.8 atk UP at full HP Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 35phgy5e, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Fire/Bolt Waning 18 21% Fire/Bolt + 10.1% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman sw3bzug3, F/R/C Loran, 2nd room from lamp
Bolt Fools Nourishing setup (for PvE)
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 4.8 atk UP at full HP Dropped by Pthumerian Elder 35phgy5e, F/R/C Ihyll L3
Bolt Abyssal Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 10.8% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 9evjrixc, F/C Loran L4
Low BL Fire setup
Fire Radial x2 18 21% fire + 31.5 fire Dropped by Labyrinth Madman snfaxhz4, F/R/C Ihyll L1, near lamp
Fire Waning 17 9.1% fire + 67.5 fire Dropped by Loran Cleric fiumsxiv, F/R/C Loran L3, main area
Low BL Bolt setup
Bolt Radial x2 18 21% bolt + 31.5 bolt Dropped by Labyrinth Madman snfaxhz4, F/R/C Ihyll L1, near lamp
Bolt Waning 18 +77 bolt Coffin loot 39a5b7tc, F/R/C Loran L3, pre-boss bonus room
Low BL arcane setup
Arcane Radial x2 18 9.1% arcane + 67.5 arcane Dropped by Brainsucker (mob) jbrfi85f, F/C Ihyll L1, cave under bridge
Arcane Triangle 19 9.8% arcane + 72.5 arcane Dropped by Brainsucker (boss) a2hjx8xe, F/R/C Isz L1

Best Striking (Charge ATK UP) setup

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Watchers Striking setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons)
Physical Radial x2 19 36.3% charge atk Dropped by Watchers (boss) pgt39my4, F/C Ihyll L1
Physical Triangle 19 36.3% charge atk Dropped by Watchers (boss) ywwffubu, F/C Ihyll L1
Madman Striking setup (Normal/Uncanny Weapons, great for Simon's Bowblade)
Striking Radial x2 18 28% charge atk + 12% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman dpbmzyvv, F/C Ihyll L1, near lamp
Striking Waning 18 28% charge atk + 12% atk UP at full HP Dropped by Labyrinth Madman fzsmwibh, F/C Ihyll L1, 2nd room from lamp

Best Beast/Kinhunter setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Fire Beast/Kinhunter setup
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 5.4% beast/kin up Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kpxrin6h, F/R/C Ihyll, Layer 3
Fire Waning 18 21% fire + 11.3% beast/kin up Dropped by Labyrinth Madman pw8ykpcr, F/R/C Loran L1, 2nd room from lamp
Bolt Beast/Kinhunter setup
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 5.4% beast/kin up Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kpxrin6h, F/R/C Ihyll, Layer 3
Bolt Abyssal Waning 20 22.5% bolt + 12.2% beast/kin up Dropped by Abhorrent Beast 3vveh4fm, F/R/C Loran, L3
Arcane Beasthunter setup
Cold Abyssal Radial x2 20 Arc scaling +65 + 5.4% beast/kin up Dropped by Pthumerian Elder kpxrin6h, F/R/C Ihyll, Layer 3
Arcane Abyssal Triangle 20 24.8% arcane + 5.4% beast/kin up Dropped by Ebrietas e2ts7vub, F/R/C Isz L3

Best Poison Setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Watchers Rapid poison setup
Dirty Radial x2 19 Add rapid poison +21.7 Dropped by Watchers (boss) 5mhh8fz7, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Dirty Triangle 19 Add rapid poison +21.7 Dropped by Watchers (boss) hbuqpn7z, F/R/C Isz L1
Rapid poison alternative (easier farm, good for Logarius' Wheel)
Dirty Radial x2 18 Add rapid poison +16.8 + 14 arcane Dropped by Gravekeeper Scorpion (purple aura with babies) n6fbw837, F/TC Ihyll L1
Dirty Triangle 17 Add rapid poison +16.8 + 14 arcane Dropped by Gravekeeper Scorpion (purple aura with babies) 6g62eurh, F/R/TC Isz L1, pre-lamp bonus room
Watchers Slow poison setup
Murky Radial x2 19 Add slow poison +18.1 Dropped by Watchers (boss) 5mhh8fz7, F/R/C Ihyll L1
Murky Triangle 19 Add slow poison +18.1 Dropped by Watchers (boss) hbuqpn7z, F/R/C Isz L1
Slow poison alternative (easier farm)
Murky Radial x2 18 Add slow poison +14 +2nd effect Dropped by Nightmare Apostle pj9bbpr4, F/R/TC Ihyll L1
Murky Waning 19 Add slow poison +15.9 + 2nd effect Dropped by Loran Silverbeast (boss) cb9un3sz , F/R/C Loran L1

Best HP regen setup

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Any weapon variant
Pulsing Any 18 HP continues to recover +5 + 2nd effect Dropped by Bone Ash Hunter (radials)
Beast-Posssessed Soul (mob) (triangles)
Logarius Wheel Hunter (wanings) 		urx3wn2n, F/R/C Loran, L1

Best Poorman's setup

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Normal/Uncanny weapons
Poorman's Radial x2 17 12.2% phys. + 27% phys. UP near death Dropped by Evil Labyrinth Spirit e8um2a42, F/C Ihyll L2, near lamp
Poorman's Triangle 17 12.2% phys. + 27% phys. UP near death Dropped by Evil Labyrinth Spirit khsva3kx, F/C Isz L1 near lamp

Best Bloodtinge setups

Setup Shape Rating Effects Availability Glyphs
Slot Machine* Watchers Bloodtinge setup (0.25% chance for a Bloodtinge gem to drop)
Bloodtinge Radial x2 19 32.6% bloodtinge Dropped by Watchers (boss) x69bm25r, F/R/C Ihyll L1 (single pillar room)
g23a3ed3, F/R/C Ihyll L1 (staircase room)
Bloodtinge Triangle 19 32.6% bloodtinge Dropped by Watchers (boss) 74rpt7p6, F/R/C Isz (square room)
qrrjnd2x, Cursed Isz (staircase room)
Out-of-shape Shotgun Watcher mob farm (3% chance for OOS gem to drop)
Bloodtinge Circle/Any 18 31.5% bloodtinge Dropped by Watcher (mob) un7jx5px, F/C Ihyll L1, dark room near lamp
gvpuuz84, F/R/TC* Ihyll L1, dark room near lamp

Notes

  • *TC = Terrible Curse (75% HP cut, increased gem drop rate from enemies when wearing at least 1 Discovery boosting rune)
  • *Slot Machine dungeons have their gem effect bytes removed, making all gem effects in these dungeons possible (some effects like Tempering are still a common drop though). Doing this ups the chance of getting Bloodtinge gems, but it is still very rare. These dungeons should only be used to farm Bloodtinge gems effectively, other gem effects can be farmed faster in other dungeons. But if you want dungeons with a reasonable chance to get any gem, these are the ones for you!
  • Detailed Gemming Guides: Kos Parasite; Logarius' Wheel; Amygdalan Arm
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