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Farming

Farming


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For maximum efficiency of farming runs equip Caryll Runes "Moon" and "Eye".

Newest Guide [7th September 2018]: The Easy Farming Guide for all things Bloodborne (2018) by asim_riz

Blood Vials, QS Bullets, Upgrade Material, & Blood Echoes

  • Tip: Regularly upload your Bloodborne save file (a valid PS+ subscription is needed):

    [Settings] > [Application Data Management] > [Auto-Upload] > [Enable Automatic Uploads]

    [Settings] > [Application Data Management] > [Saved Data in System] > [Upload to Online Storage].


1. Blood Vials & Quicksilver Bullets Farming


Central Yharnam is your answer.

  • Scourge Beasts, Large Huntsmen & Huntsman Minions = Blood Vials.
  • Huntsmen (Rifle) & Wheelchair Huntsmen = Quicksilver Bullets.
  • Mob Enemies through Central Yharnam = Blood Vials & Quicksilver Bullets.


2. Blood Stone Chunks Farming (Kekimus Prime's Method)


Note: You need to own the DLC (works on Patch v1.09)

  • Follow Kekimus Prime's Guide to farm as many blood stone chunks as you want. You need to be at the Research Halls lamp to make this work. Run up the steps next to the lamp & you will enter a large hall with a spiral staircase. Kill the Wandering Nightmare on your left but DO NOT loot it. Run to the far end of the hall (across the poisonous water) & you will see another Wandering Nightmare on the steps. Kill that too but DO NOT loot it. Run back to the Nightmare Church lamp & down the staircase. Kill the Wandering Nightmare but DO NOT loot it. Run back to the Research Halls & kill the two Wandering Nightmares again but again DO NOT loot them ! Repeat this process & remember NOT to loot the Wandering Nightmares. When you feel you've farmed enough then loot the Wandering Nightmares after killing them. You will keep getting the option to "search the corpse." Keep doing that until you don't see it anymore.

Note:

  • 75min of doing this gave me about 140 blood stone chunks.
  • This works only ONCE every playthrough so you may want to spend some time doing it to get as many blood stone chunks as possible.
  • DON'T die during this process or you will lose your progress of killing Wandering Nightmares & will have to start the entire process again.
  • I would highly recommend using this technique for blood stone chunks farming after you've killed Brador in the jail cell corridor so that both enemies (staff guy & wheelchair huntsman) will be dead & will not cause issues when running back & forth between the Research Hall & Nightmare Church lamps.


3. "If you don't meet the requirements to join certain chalice dungeons"


  • Obtain 2x Ritual Blood (1) from altar near the hanging beast in the big hall in Old Yharnam.

  • Defeat the Blood-starved Beast to obtain Pthumeru Chalice.

  • Complete Pthumeru Chalice, Central Pthumeru Chalice & Lower Pthumeru Chalice (don't remove this dungeon after completion as you can farm Ritual Blood (4) here).

  • Defeat Amygdala in Nightmare Frontier to obtain Ailing Loran Chalice (collect 4x Coldblood Flowerbuds in Nightmare Frontier for opening more chalice dungeons).

  • Defeat Ebrietas to obtain Great Isz Chalice.

  • Kill the Brain of Mensis in Nightmare of Mensis to obtain Living String (another raw material for opening chalice dungeons).

  • Complete Ailing Loran Chalice, Defiled Chalice (obtained from defeating Bloodletting Beast in Lower Pthumeru Chalice), Great Isz Chalice & Lower Loran Chalice (obtained from defeating Abhorrent Beast in Ailing Loran Chalice).
  • Complete Great Pthumeru Ihyll Chalice (obtained from Defiled Chalice Layer 3 boss).

  • Finally, create an Isz Root Chalice (obtained from Great Pthumeru Ihyll Chalice final boss) with all FRC rites (You can choose to either explore the Isz Root Chalice or remove it. After opening this particular chalice dungeon, you will be able to access ALL other FRC dungeons).


4. Blood Echoes Farming (Rear Visceral Attacks Method)


Note: Always equip the 2nd tier Heir rune, 3rd tier Heir rune & 3rd tier Moon rune to obtain max blood echoes from enemies slain with visceral attacks (rear or frontal).

a. Tips for successful rear visceral attacks

  • ALWAYS lock-on to an enemy for a rear visceral attack unless it's the Beast Possessed Soul which you cannot lock-on to while it's resting. However, you can lock-on to a Beast Possessed Soul while it's standing up.
  • When you're standing behind an enemy locked-on & ready for a charged R2 attack, NEVER initiate it while facing the enemy from its left side.
  • For a rear visceral attack, ALWAYS face the enemy from the right side slightly. This is because if the charged R2 attack is initiated while facing the enemy a bit from the left then after the charged R2 attack when you perform the 2nd R2 attack (assuming you're using the Holy Moonlight Sword), you will knock the enemy over thus breaking the attack chain & the NPC will chase you.

b. Tips for hunters at lower blood levels

If you can't kill the Bone Ash Hunter or Cainhurst Knight in one combo either due to being at a lower blood level and/or having an underpowered weapon (less than +10 or lower than 26.3%, 27.2% physical gems equipped) then follow these techniques:

  • As you level up, you'll be able to kill the Bone Ash Hunter with just charged R2+R2+visceral attack (specific to the Holy Moonlight Sword). With Ludwig's Holy Blade it's charged R2+visceral attack then R1 as soon as the Bone Ash Hunter stands up.
  • With the Cainhurst Knight, you will have to do (if you're using the Holy Moonlight Sword): charged R2+R2+visceral attack+R1 as soon as the Cainhurst Knight stands up.
  • If you can't cause enough damage then as soon as the visceral attack animation is done, RUN back to the lamp room, past the lamp & hide out of sight in the area beyond that (specific to w6qvjakg). This will de-aggro the NPCs.
  • Wait for the NPC hunter to return to their original position. You can follow them by walking (DO NOT run or you will aggro them again).
  • If the NPC has returned to their original position then you can run back & visceral attack them again for the echoes.
  • There is another strategy to de-aggro the Cainhurst Knight (specific to w6qvjakg). After the initial visceral attack, run behind the pillar to his right. He will chase you. Circle around it carefully until he de-aggros & returns to his original position. Then just walk up to him & administer another visceral attack to finish him.
  • Rinse & repeat to level up.

c. The Glyphs

From the experience, these 2 dungeons are the best:

  • Glyph: w6qvjakg (Pthumeru Ihyll Root Chalice: Layer 1)

You get 407,195 blood echoes. This can be done in 42 seconds.

  • Glyph: wm732fk9 (Pthumeru Ihyll Root Chalice: Layer 2)

You get 550,124 blood echoes. This can be done in 50 seconds.

Note: The times I've mentioned are based on killing the enemies as quickly as possible with complete visceral attack chains. If you aggro any of the hunters then it will obviously take longer than the times mentioned.

Blood Gems & Caryll Runes

5. 27.2% Cursed Tempering Damp Gems, Cursed Heavy Abyssal Gems and 31.5% Cursed Damp Bloodtinge Gems


Tip: If you have to reopen a chalice dungeon repeatedly for farming purposes then just use the ... button on the PS keyboard to copy & paste the glyph.

a. 27.2% Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gems (including Poorman's, Fool's, Adept, Fire, Bolt, Arcane, Striking, Kinhunter's & OOS Waning Gems)

  • Glyph for Radial Gems: by68zgaj (Layer 1 Boss: The Merciless Watchers)
  • Glyph for Triangle Gems: p8mr34ip (As you run out of the layer 1 lamp room, the lever room is on your right & the door to the boss is on your left. Watch out for a Circle of Candles as you enter the small room before the lever room (Layer 1 Boss: The Merciless Watchers)
  • Glyph for Triangle Gems: 3eukenpk (Layer 1 Boss: The Merciless Watchers)

You can also farm blood stone chunks & insight here because you get 1-2 blood stone chunks & 2 insight after defeating a boss.

b. STR Scaling+65 Cursed Heavy Abyssal Blood Gems (Radials)

Note: Farm the Headless Bloodletting Beast for this gem. This is maybe the best glyph for farming Cursed Heavy Abyssal Blood Gems because you can get so many other useful gems along the way; Adept Gems either 28.7% Thrust or Blunt from the Undead Giant, many other types as mentioned above from The Merciless Watchers and Poorman's Gems from the Red Aura Madman just outside the Layer 2 lamp.

  • Glyph: 7enpbrta (Layer 1 Boss: Undead Giant with cannon, Layer 2 Boss: The Merciless Watchers, Layer 3 Boss: Headless Bloodletting Beast)

Follow these steps to waste less time whilst farming this gem:

  • 1) Reach Layer 3 & unlock the boss gate by pulling the lever.

  • 2) Enter the boss arena & hide behind the first pillar on the left & Bold Hunters Mark out of there. Return to the Hunter's Dream.

  • 3) Equip everything you need for your fight with the Headless Bloodletting Beast. Un-equip anything you don't need.

  • 4) When you're ready, stand in front of the headstone for that dungeon & exit the game from the in-game options menu. When you're at the main menu, shut down the game.

  • 5) Upload your save file then turn on the game again. You will appear in front of the headstone. Enter the dungeon.
  • 6) If you get any of these Cursed Heavy Abyssal Blood Gems then keep them because they're the most powerful ones in the game.

  • 7) If you don't get any of the above mentioned Heavy Abyssals, then just exit the game from the boss arena & Download your uploaded save file. Rinse & repeat.

Note: Be careful that you don't Upload your save file when you need to Download it. Just pay attention during that process & you'll be fine. Always close down your game completely before uploading or downloading a save file.

c. 31.5% Cursed Damp Bloodtinge Gems (including Off-Shapes)

Note: I have done 3000+ runs of the infamous y592byza & naapatbx dungeons. However, y592byza involves a long run to the Shotgun Watcher & naapatbx comprises a Shotgun Watcher than can easily be glitched into the environment if hit too hard due to the narrow tunnel. Therefore, after further research, I have concluded that the following glyph (5kig3jjm) is the best for Cursed Damp Bloodtinge Gems farming as the tunnel isn't as narrow as in naapatbx nor is the run to the Shotgun Watcher too long like in y592byza.

Important Tips: Use the R2 thrust of the Holy Moonlight Sword to slay the Shotgun Watcher. Keep the Shotgun Watcher in the middle of the tunnel otherwise he will glitch into the environment. Also, when farming this enemy, if you don't get Cursed Damp Bloodtinge Gems for 4 attempts then either return to the Hunter's Dream then come back to the dungeon OR die to the Shotgun Watcher to reset the drop table. What you want to do is to ensure that you keep getting Cursed Damp Bloodtinge Gems so that they may drop Out-Of-Shape.

  • Glyph: 5kig3jjm (Cursed Pthumeru Ihyll: Layer 4)

The gems you're looking for are the Cursed Damp Bloodtinge Gems. Forget the Warm Damp Blood Gems.

Off-Shape/Out-Of-Shape Blood Gems: You may also obtain these blood gems in radial, triangle or waning form. These are called OOS (Off-Shape or Out-Of-Shape) gems & are VERY rare. You need dedication, commitment.


6. Caryll Runes and Uncanny & Lost Weapons


The Most Detailed Spreadsheet

An Awesome Farming Spreadsheet by Kazin79

Echo Farming [Source]

Below are various echo farms listed in order of how soon you can access them, which also coincides with how much you can get out of them.

A few things to take note of in regards to this guide:
  • These areas are personal suggestions. There are other potential farms/farming methods out there, and these are ones that I've found to work nicely for myself.
  • The "Required Boss" is the boss you must defeat before you can have access to the listed area.
  • The "Ideal Run Time" refers to approximately the fastest time it takes to complete a run. Actual completion times will depend on your skill, your weapon/stats, and other factors such as if the mobs feel like being nice or not.
  • There are some sub-par rune setups listed because you probably will not have access to the ideal runes when you first get to the area.
  • The echoes per run were counted several times, though there may still be mistakes. Nonetheless, they should be good estimates of how much you can get per run.
A few notes in regards to farming:
  • The Heir bonus that grants you extra echoes with visceral attacks does not require that you kill the enemy with a visceral attack. You only need to kill them shortly after a visceral. If you take too long, you will not get the Heir bonus.
  • The Tier 3 Moon rune and the Teir 1 Heir rune both grant a 30% bonus, so they are interchangeable. I recommend using the Tier 3 Moon because in the event that you do not manage to kill an enemy quickly enough or if you didn't get a visceral at all, you will still get the 30% bonus from the Moon rune.
  • You can find the Tier 3 Heir rune in this Fetid, Rotted Pthumeru Ihyll glyph: df235ysm (Speedrun Video courtesy of /u/malady013)
  • Bold Hunter's Mark can help save a lot of time. Use this to reset the area and respawn at the lamp without having to first return to the Dream and then return to the area.
  • If you are confused about chalices and root chalices/glyphs, please see this FAQ.

Lamp: Lecture Building

  • Required Boss: Vicar Amelia

  • Ideal Run Time: ~1 minute

  • Secondary Benefits: Quicksilver Bullets, Sedatives (rare)

  • Down the hall to the right of the lamp is a room filled with slime students. They are easy pickings and they are weak to both bolt and fire. In NG, even the first fire gem you can find in the game is sufficient enough to burn through them quickly. Simply kill all the students in this room.
NG Cycle Runes Echoes
NG No Runes 13,488
NG Tier 1 Moon 14,832
NG All Moon Runes 23,136
NG+6 All Moon Runes 247,040

Lamp: Mergo's Loft: Middle

  • Required Boss: Micolash, Host of the Nightmare

  • Ideal Run Time: ~1 minute

  • Secondary Benefits: Blood Vials, Quicksilver Bullets

  • As you've probably noticed due to the Heir runes, this farm focuses on visceral attacks. There are three Shadows you can parry and one pig you can backstab. As you go into this area, there will be two Shadows walking away from you. If you go up to them without moving too fast, the melee one will aggro earlier. Parry him first, then parry the candle guy. A little ways further is a fireball-throwing Shadow. Wait for him to attack with his mace and parry him. Just a little past the fireball thrower is a pig facing away from you. You can run up to it and unleash a fully charged R2, then stick your hand in its butt. Unlike other enemies, you don't have to sneak/walk up to it. If you'd like, there are more Shadows and pigs in this area for you to parry and backstab.
NG Cycle Runes Echoes
NG All Moon Runes 31,185
NG Tier 3 Moon, Tier 1 and 2 Heir 42,997
NG Tier 3 Moon, Tier 2 and 3 Heir 49,613
NG+6 Tier 3 Moon, Tier 2 and 3 Heir 393,301

Lamp: Mergo's Loft: Middle - Alternate

  • Required Boss: Micolash, Host of the Nightmare

  • Ideal Run Time: ~1 minute, 30 seconds

  • Kill the first three Shadows and the first pig in whatever way works fastest for you. After the oblivious pig, there are two more pigs in the middle section of this area.
  • Use yourself as bait and lure these two pigs towards the patrol of four Shadows near the end of this area. With some luck, the pigs and the Shadows will duke it out. You can "assist" one side if you wish or just wait to mop up the victors, which tend to be the Shadows.
  • Due to the nature of the pigs and Shadows, there are more variables when it comes to how fast you can complete this run. Depending on the outcome of the fight, you yourself are also at more risk when it comes to duking it out with whomever is left.
  • If you do not have the top tier Heir rune and/or you can get this run down consistently and efficiently (in 1 minute and 30 seconds), then this has the slightly better echoes per second rate.
  • Note: If you are playing online, make sure you've killed the Bell Ringing Woman in the aqueduct area near two Shadows unless you want to deal with the risk of invasions.
NG Cycle Runes Echoes
NG All Moon Runes 77,870
NG+6 All Moon Runes 617,337

Chalice: Lower Loran - Layer 2

  • Ideal Run Time: ~1 minute

  • Secondary Benefits: Blood Vials

  • There are a lot of beast patients just outside the lamp so all you have to do is exterminate them all. Fitting job for a hunter!
Runes Echoes
All Moon Runes 87,184

Chalice: Great Isz - Layer 3

  • Ideal Run Time: ~1.5 minutes

  • Secondary Benefits: Quicksilver Bullets, Blood Vials, Gems (rare)

  • Just past the lamp, there are a lot of Emissary mobs hanging out plus two large wolves. Just mow through all of them and get your echoes.
Runes Echoes
All Moon Runes 175,400

Chalice: Isz FRC - Layer 1

  • Glyph: cb7jig9p

  • Ideal Run Time: ~20 seconds

  • Secondary Benefits: Cursed Gems

  • There is a Bone Ash hunter past the lamp to the left. Her back is towards you, giving you a free backstab. If your stats are high enough, she shouldn't be too hard to kill quickly. There are also some Emissary mobs nearby that you can beat up if you'd like, but they are unnecessary.
Runes Echoes
Tier 3 Moon, Tier 2 and 3 Heir 147,045

Chalice: Pthumeru Ihyll FRC - Layer 1

  • Glyph: w6qvjakg

  • Ideal Run Time: ~40 seconds

  • Videos: Whirligig Saw or Holy Moonlight Sword

  • Secondary Benefits: Cursed Gems

  • This is the potentially fastest farm that I know of. It is also an incredibly late/endgame farm and in order to farm this place efficiently, you will probably need to hit the softcaps for at least STR and SKL.
  • There is a Bone Ash hunter and a Cainhurst hunter just past the lamp, both ripe for backstabbing. If you can kill them quickly, this is the most efficient farm listed. The issue is how to kill them quickly. Here are some suggestions/examples:
  • With the Whirligig Saw, use blood bullets each run so you can buff it with the Empty Phantasm Shell for free. Make sure you have top tier physical gems as well.
    Bone Ash Hunter: Charged R2 -> Visceral -> R1
    Cainhurst Hunter: Charged R2 -> Visceral -> Charged R2
    Depending on your stats and gems, you may need to add in an extra hit or two, especially for the Cainhurst hunter.
  • Alternatively, you can use the Holy Moonlight Sword. Make sure you gem it up with top tier physical gems as those will
    perform better here than top tier nourishing gems. Bone Ash Hunter: Charged R2 -> Visceral -> Charged R2
    Cainhurst Hunter: Charged R2 -> Visceral -> Charged R2 -> Follow-up R2
    The positioning of the Cainhurst hunter can make it hard to consistently kill him with that combo, which is why I personally prefer the Whirligig method. Play around and see what weapon and combos work best for you.
Runes Echoes
Tier 3 Moon, Tier 2 and 3 Heir 147,045

Other Echoes Farming Methods

  • Early Game - Hemwick Charnel Lane:
    For this method use Heir rune to get more Blood Echoes from Visceral Attacks. Warp to Witch's Abode and run through the level backwards, before engaging Hemwick Grave Women blood tap for blood bullets and recover lost health by attacking them immediately. Executioner will run towards you, Visceral Attack him and run down the hill where you do the same to the other two Executioners. Once this is done use Bold Hunter's Mark and repeat. As byproduct you will get nice amount of Blood Vials from Executioners.
    The above method gets you roughly 9,000 Blood Echoes in ~2 mins.

  • Lecture Building:
    Gain access to the lecture hall and unlock all of the doors. You will notice that there are two rooms with only one enemy and a room with about 20 enemies. Go to the room with 20 enemies and carefully kill them all. Next go to a room with only one enemy in it and die. This seems to improve the loading time as you don't have to go back to the dream and teleport back in. Recover your souls rinse and repeat. Each cycle gets you around 15,000 per run. If you die in the hall with the 20 enemies in it ensure that you get your souls back before attacking the mob. As an added bonus these enemies drop QS bullets and Sedatives.
    The above method gets you roughly 15,000 Blood Echoes in 5 mins or less.

  • Mergos Loft: Middle:
    Get to Mergos Loft: Middle or anywhere close to the two cell elevators. Go into the cell elevator with the broken cell door and as you go up you will notice an open tall window you can roll into as the elevator goes up or down. Roll into it, kill the brains that frenzy really quick and then heal up. After killing three brains You get about 30-40k Blood Echoes easily. Rinse and repeat.
    The above method gets you roughly 30,000 - 40,000 Blood Echoes.

  • Chalice Dungeon, Glyph: su5rrd2j Layer 2 by AzureSummer:
    In the hall right near the lamp, there are 2 Ashbone hunters standing with their backs exposed. 3 heir runes->2 viscerals->bold hunter's mark->repeat. Nets you about 320000 echoes in around 40 seconds, no risk involved. Here's the video. Now, how is this method better than a very well know Mergo's loft: Middle? First, as I've already mentioned, it's risk-free (especially considering that pigs and sword shadows can one-shot you on NG+6). Second, it's just faster.

    The downside, however, is the fact that you need top gems to be able to kill those hunters. I am running two +27% and one +65 STR and still am not able to kill them after backstab and visceral. To avoid farming for 30% fool's gems, here is a little workaround: use a Stakedriver buffed with Phantasm Shell. Its R2 damage is absolutely absurd, so it greatly helps to deal with those Ashbones.
    Nets you about 320000 echoes in around 40 seconds
  • Cursed Pthumeru Ihyll L1, Glyph: w6qvjakg by amygdalapls:
    I'd like to clarify that this is a very late/endgame farm. It requires you to go through pretty much most of the chalices including rather tough ones. It's not the best farm for mid-game, but it's the highest farm I know of for high level people pushing to max level or people that want to fill up their stocks fast.

    Video Guide: Bloodborne 407k Echoes/min Chalice Hunter Farm - Holy Moonlight Sword

    The runes I have equipped are the two top Heirs and the top Moon, which can be swapped out for the last Heir as both offer a 30% increase. Weapon: Holy Moonlight Sword with three 27.2% physical gems. You can experiment with other weapons and see what's most efficient for you. 30% thrust gems will help as well since visceral attacks supposedly count as thrust.

    Another way this can be done efficiently is with the whirligig saw at 99 strength. Same runes and same max physical gems, though I did it with two at 26.3%. You also need to use the empty phantasm shell. Bone Ash Hunter: Charged R2 --> Visceral --> R1. She's right at death's door after my visceral and I have 99 skill, so that R1 should kill her. Cainhurst Hunter: Charged R2 --> Visceral --> Charged R2. He's dead at this point for me, again at 99 skill, so you may need another whack to finish him off.

    Video Guide: Bloodborne 407k Echoes/min Chalice Hunter Farm - Whirligig Saw
    407k Echoes Per Run Chalice Hunter Farm - can be done under a minute

  • xktcvpjm, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L1:
    Stock up on as many Bold Hunter's Marks as you can and equip all three moon runes. Enter the dungeon, light the layer one lantern and make sure you will respawn there when using a bold hunter's mark. Run directly outside of the room with the lantern and to the left, you will see a group of blue alien creatures. Kill them all. They give you about 10k echoes per kill and you make roughly 100k echoes per minute. Use a Bold Hunter's Mark, repeat as necessary. With +10 Ludwig's Holy Blade, one strong thrust attack will kill them instantly, this is effective as they tend to group together and line up when chasing you. Just bring your biggest, most powerful weapon because killing them quickly is the key to the efficiency of this method.
    The above method gets you roughly 100,000 Blood Echoes.

Blood Stone Farming [Source]

Things to note

  • As you progress through the main game, Blood Stone Shards and Twin Blood Stone Shards will eventually become rather easy to find/purchase by the time you get to mid/late NG. Thus, they will not be a major concern in this guide.
  • Eye runes increase the item discovery stat, which can help you get more drops. You can find the top tier version in this Rotted Isz glyph: ji7y3vu8 (Speedrun Video courtesy courtesy of /u/malady013)

Lamp: Forsaken Castle Cainhurst

  • Required Boss: Vicar Amelia
  • There are several gargoyle enemies in this area. They have a decent chance of dropping Twin Blood Stone Shards. They also are a source of Blood Stone Chunks, though the drop rate can be rather disappointing (one in maybe ten runs). However, if you are desperate to farm chunks at this point of the game, this is likely your best bet.
  • If you have the elevator shortcut open, simply take it up. Exit the door on the right and there are two gargoyles you can beat up. Keep heading "backwards" and you will come across a rapier-wielding servant that can drop blood vials. A little further there are four more gargoyles you can kill.
  • Note: If you are using the Bold Hunter's Mark, send the elevator down behind you so you don't have to call for it when you respawn and want to head back up.

Lamp: Upper Cathedral Ward

  • Required Boss: Rom, the Vacuous Spider
  • Clear out the Upper Cathedral Ward's main building first to get that main gate shortcut open. Inside the building, there are several blue-eyed wolves. There are four on the ground floor and one will jump out of a window upstairs at the end of a hallway. Those all have a good chance of dropping regular Blood Stone Shards and Twin Shards. They also have the chance to drop Blood Stone Chunks, although those will be rarer.
  • A nice way you can cheese the wolves on the ground floor is to lure them up to the top floor. Go through the doorway that leads to the hallway with the window-hopping wolf. The wolves have extreme difficulty fitting through that doorway (just look at the size of them!) so you can somewhat safely attack them with a longer weapon while they bite at air.
  • These wolves have a better chunk drop rate than the gargoyles, plus the fact that it's faster to get to/from the lamp to these guys. If you're lucky and have high enough discovery, you can get up to around one chunk per run. If you aren't so lucky... may the good blood guide your way.

Chalice: Any Depth 5 FRC

  • All Depth 5 FRC bosses have a good chance of dropping a Blood Stone Chunk or two along with whatever gem you get from defeating them. If you can find a glyph that has a Layer 1 lever that's quick to get to and a boss that's easy to kill, that glyph is a good candidate for chunk farming.
  • You will get insight each time you defeat the boss. For 20 insight, you can buy another chunk, although my recommendation is to save up for 60 to buy a Blood Rock. By doing so, you'll be working towards both chunks and rocks when you farm these bosses.
  • As a side note: if you are not hurting for chunks, you can find some while you farm for top tier cursed gems.

  • Suggested glyph: huy83p9r
  • This Isz FRC has a Layer 1 Brainsucker boss, which should be relatively easy to defeat. The lever is guarded by a brainsucker in the room to the right of the lamp. Simply create the glyph, get to the lever, defeat the boss, remove the chalice, and repeat.

  • A big shoutout and thanks to the members of the Bloodborne community that have made this guide possible, including the kind hunters that have shared chalice glyphs filled with important loot. Thanks to you as well for reading this far!

How To Farm The Best Blood Gems by nagamasaarai

Introduction: After a lot of farming in depth 5 dungeons, I decided to make a list of where you can farm top tier gems. The following dungeons utilize first boss farming. To be considered a good farming spot, the boss needs to be fairly easy, give high tier gems and the lever to open the boss doors should most often be close to the lamp-- Thus making it very ideal for farming. The gems are all cursed, and can have any of the following negative effects:

  • WPN Durability Down - between (-58.5-63)
  • ATK DOWN - between (8.2-8.8%)
  • Increases stamina costs between (2.8-3.5)
  • ATK vs Beasts Down between (-5.5-12%)
  • ATK vs the Kin Down -between (-5.5-12%)
  • HP continues to decrease -between (1-9)

I will only be posting gems that have dropped for me. If I dont list a tier 20 gem on a certain boss, then it doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't drop. In fact, it probably does, but at an extremely low rate. Also, I wont be posting the negative effects of each gem, since every cursed gem can have any of the above stated negative effects.
FOR PHYSICAL+% (OR FIRE) WITH ARCANE ADD SECONDARY (Triangle shape, but very rarely drops radial)

Check out this dungeon and farm first boss:
  • Glyph: huy83p9r (By SleepAttack)
  • Location: Isz Root.
  • Rites: Cursed, Foetid, Rotten.
  • The first boss in this one is the Brainsucker. Approach with care, dodge attack and go in and spam until your stamina is used up, then back off and repeat.

The following drops from this boss:

    Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6) ((With Arcane ADD)
  • Rating 17: * Main effect: Physical ATK up 9.1% ; Secondary: ADD Arcane ATK +67,5-72.5
  • Rating 18: * Main effect: Physical ATK up 9.5% ; Secondary: ADD Arcane ATK+67,5-72.5
  • Rating 19: * Main effect: Physical ATK up 9.8% ; Secondary: ADD Arcane ATK+67,5-72.5
  • Cursed FIRE Damp Blood Gem (6) ((With Arcane ADD)
  • Rating 17: * Main effect: FIRE ATK up 9.1% ; Secondary: ADD Arcane ATK+67,5-72.5
  • Rating 18: * Main effect: FIRE ATK up 9.5% ; Secondary: ADD Arcane ATK+67,5-72.5
  • Rating 19: * Main effect: FIRE ATK up 9.8% ; Secondary: ADD Arcane ATK+67,5-72.5

If you want guaranteed radials with physical % and arcane add:
  • Glyph: ba362b97
  • Location: Phtumeru Ihyll root.
  • Rites: Cursed, Foetid, Rotten.
  • Unlock lever, and farm the brainsucker mob guarding the treasure chest in the t-room before the first boss. The best it can drop is a rating 17 gem, but its a guaranteed radial...
  • With the case of these gems. The highest rating is not necessarily the best gem for your particular weapon. If the weapons base dmg is mediocre, you might get more out of rating 17 gem. Or if the gems are equal, just use the one with the less bad negative effects.

FOR ARCANE UP+% AND TRIANGLE PHYSICAL GEMS

Check out this dungeon and farm first boss:
  • Glyph: 5pwujscd (By VictoolF91)
  • Location: Isz Root.
  • Rites: Cursed, Foetid, Rotten.
  • The first boss in this one are the Watchers. They are fairly easy. Just parry the first 2, and kill the 3rd one with charge attacks.

The following drops from this boss:

Cursed Arcane Damp Blood Gem (6) Stats: (These doesn't drop too often, but when they do, thank RNGjesus and equip them).
  • Rating 17: Arcane ATK up 25.3%
  • Rating 18: Arcane ATK up 26.3%
  • Rating 19: Arcane ATK up 27.2%

Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6) (Triangle) Stats:
  • Rating 17: Physical ATK up 25.3%
  • Rating 18: Physical ATK up 26.3%
  • Rating 19: Physical ATK up 27.2%

Cursed Fool's Damp Blood Gem (6) (Triangle) Stats:
  • Rating 19: Main effect: ATK UP at full hp 29% 1 of these Secondary effects : HP gradually depletes-9

Cursed Fire Damp Blood Gem (6) (Note: these gems are a rare drop from the Watchers. You are more likely to find them in lower loran root):
  • Rating 17: Fire ATK up 25.3%
  • Rating 18: Fire ATK up 26.3%
  • Rating 19: Fire ATK up 27.2%

Cursed Adept Damp Blood Gem (6)
  • Rating 19: Main effect: Blunt ATK UP+32.6%
FOR RADIAL PHYSICAL ATK UP+% AND FIRE GEMS

Check out this dungeon and farm first boss:
  • Glyph: pwmf22gu (by Lionhard70)
  • Location: Great Phtumeru Ihyll Root.
  • Rites: Cursed, Foetid, Rotten.
  • The first boss are Watchers. Very easy boss, especially if you cheese it.

The following drops from this boss:

Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6) (Radial) Stats:
  • Rating 17: Physical ATK up 25.3%
  • Rating 18: Physical ATK up 26.3%
  • Rating 19: Physical ATK up 27.2%

These gems can also drop:

Cursed Fire Damp Blood Gem (6) (Note: these gems are a rare drop from the Watchers. You are more likely to find them in lower loran root):
  • Rating 17: Fire ATK up 25.3%
  • Rating 18: Fire ATK up 26.3%
  • Rating 19: Fire ATK up 27.2%

Cursed Poorman´s Damp Blood Gem (6) (Very rare drop from watchers)
  • Rating 19: Physical UP near death +36.3%
FOR FIRE AND BOLT ATK UP+% AND RAPID POISON GEMS WITH SECONDARY AND WANING PHYSICAL GEMS

Check out this dungeon and farm first boss:
  • Glyph: enjids45 (by in-KASUGA-po)
  • Location: Lower Loran Root.
  • Rites: Cursed, Foetid, Rotten.
  • The first boss is a Loran Silverbeast. Equip a couple Clawmark runes, and visceral attack him. You will one shot him, since he is weak to visceral attacks. Very weak. Extremely easy and useful to farm.

The following Waning gems drops from this boss:

Cursed Fire Damp Blood Gem (6) Stats:
  • Rating 17: Main effect: Fire ATK UP+22.3%; 1 of these Secondary effects : Add bolt ATK +13.5 / Add Fire ATK +13.5
  • Rating 18: Main effect: Fire ATK UP+23.1%; 1 of these Secondary effects : Add bolt ATK +13.5-14 / Add fire ATK +13.5-14
  • Rating 19: Main effect: Fire ATK UP+23.9%; 1 of these Secondary effects : Add bolt ATK +14 / Add fire ATK +14 / Add Rapid Poison Effect +3.3

Cursed Bolt Damp Blood Gem (6) Stats:
  • Rating 17: Main effect: Bolt ATK UP+22.3%; 1 of these Secondary effects: Add bolt ATK +13.5 / Add fire ATK +13.5 / HP continues to recover +1
  • Rating 18: Main effect: Bolt ATK UP+23.1%; 1 of these Secondary effects: Add bolt ATK +13.5-14 / Add fire ATK +13.5-14 / HP continues to recover +1-2
  • Rating 19: Main effect: Bolt ATK UP+23.9%; 1 of these Secondary effects: Add bolt ATK +14 / Add fire ATK +14 / HP continues to recover +1-3

These gems can also drop, and are slightly more rare than bolt and fire:

Cursed Dirty Damp Blood Gem (6) Stats:
  • Rating 17: Main effect: Add rapid poison effect+17.8 (or sometimes rarely: Add slow poison +14.8); 1 of these secondary effects: Hp continues to recover +1 / boosts rally potential +2.9%
  • Rating 18: Main effect: Add rapid poison effect +18.4 (or sometimes rarely: Add slow poison +15.4); 1 of these secondary effects: Hp continues to recover +1-2 / add slow poison effect +2.9 / ATK VS beasts up 5%
  • Rating 19: This hasn't dropped for me yet, but I guess you can infer the stats of what it will be, based on the other ones.

Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6) (Waning) Stats:
  • Rating 17: Main effect: Physical ATK up 22.3%; 1 of these secondary effects: Add slow poison effect +2.7%
  • Rating 18: Main effect: Physical ATK up 23.1%; 1 of these secondary effects: Add fire ATK +13.5-14
  • Rating 19: This hasn't dropped either.

FOR PHYSICAL UP+% GEMS WITH SECONDARY

Check out this dungeon and farm first boss:
  • Glyph: diryie74 (By Pontaro-_-)
  • Location: Great Phtumeru Ihyll Root
  • Rites: Cursed, Foetid, Rotten.
  • The first boss in this one Phtumerian Elder. The guy is fairly easy to parry, and with Clawmark rune, you can do some pretty good dmg. Shouldn't have too much trouble with this guy.

The following drops from this boss:

Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6) Stats:
  • Rating 19: Main effect: Physical atk up 21.8% Secondary effect: Add Physical ATK +8.4

Cursed Tempering Abyssal Blood gem (6) (extremely rare) Stats:
  • Rating 20: Main effect: Physical atk up 22.5%; Secondary effect: Atk vs open foes up 5.6%

Haven't farmed this one so much, but you get the idea of what sort of gems drop.
List is not finished, and if people want to contribute to this list, then I wouldn't mind editing this post. Need the following info on bosses to farm these types of gems (only high tier):

  • Circle gems
  • Droplet gems
  • Arcane add+ (as main stat)
  • Physical add+ (as main stat)
  • (Physical ATK UP+ and Arcane add+ as secondary) - Found what boss you can farm this from, updating this post soon.
  • Arcane ATK UP+ and Physical add+ as secondary
  • These last 2 gem types are very useful for weapons that can scale off both elementals and physical (such as BoM or Burial Blade for instance). So if anyone got a consistent way of farming high tier versions of these gems from a boss, let me know. I haven't had too much time trying to farm all kinds of bosses to see what they drop, so I would appreciate some help from community to contribute.
Useful tips and info:

  • Radial Gems drop from Phtumeru dungeons, Triangular Gems drop from Isz dungeons and Waning Gems drop from Loran dungeons. The best gems comes from depth 5.
  • Most top tier gems are cursed gems, with minor negatives. So its best to farm chalice dungeons with all rite offerings. You only need to make a depth 5 dungeon once with either foetid or rotted and a cursed offering to be able to unlock all depth 5 dungeons with those offerings. This essentially means you only need to make the dungeon once using your own materials, and when you want to farm, just search someone else's.
  • I am not 100% sure on this, but I believe this is what rite offerings do:
  • Foetid offering adds more traps and poison pools (and possibly stronger enemies), but better chances of getting runes and weapons. (not completely sure here).
  • Rotted offering will make some enemies stronger, and you can notice this by seeing a red aura around them. These buffed mobs will drop better gems.
  • Cursed offering halves your hp and makes enemies drop the cursed gems.
  • If you pvp, I advise you run cursed gems with the atk vs beasts down and atk vs the kin down negative effects, as they will not affect you at all. If you want cursed gems that are both good for pvp and pve, I would recommend farming for the cursed gems with the ”increases stamina costs” negatives. They are rarer to find though. The most common ones are WPN durability down and atk down. If you get a cursed gem with atk down on it, its basically useless.
  • Additionally, from what I can gather, the tier of the gem is based on the difficulty of the boss. In depth 5 root chalice dungeons with all offerings, some bosses will almost always drop tier 19 gems and very rarely 20. While the Watchers boss for example will most commonly drop a tier 17 with tier 18 and 19 being less common. The final boss of said dungeons has a high chance of dropping a tier 20 abyssal gem

Creds to the peeps who opened these dungeons, and hopefully, they will be open for a while. I just found them browsing through dungeons randomly, but they have been up for many days now and still active.

Farming Out-of-Shape Blood Gems - Bloodtinge [Source]

  • Introduction: Unfortunately I didn't think to keep exact rates of gem drops, offshapes, etc., but I kept every usable offshape bloodgem. By usable, I mean:
    -Bloodtinge gems only, no Warms. -No health drain or -ATK curses. All in all, I found 15 usable offshape gems with a Discovery of 320. That's 0.75% of the drops. Here's a breakdown:
Secondary Effect 16 17 18
-% Kin 1r -
-% Beast - 1r 2r1t
-Durability 1w 3r 1t
+% Stam 1r1t - 2r
  • The top row is rating, the left-most column is the curse. The number is how many usable offshape gems I got with that rating+curse combination. The letters following the number indicate shape. r = Radial, t = Triangle, w = Waning. Totals by shape: 9 Radials, 4 triangles, 1 waning.

  • Note that while I got "less than 1%" usable offshape gems, that doesn't mean the offshape drop rate is "less than 1%". I threw away a lot of offshapes because they were bad, and the Watcher doesn't drop gems 100% of the time. If I had to guess, I'd say probably ~5% of the gems I got were offshape.

  • It took me ~45 seconds per run, including loading screens. Assuming you want only 2 usable radial gems, it would take an average of ~222 runs. That's an average of 2 hours 45 minutes to get an acceptably-gemmed Lost Chikage. Note that this doesn't guarantee you'd have those two gems after 222 runs. There is a roughly 63% chance that 222 runs would get you two usable radials. If you want rating 18s or specific curses, it's going to take longer. I wanted 2x 31.5% with +%stam curse for my Chikage. It took me 1800 runs to get my first 31.5%/+stam radial, and another 150 to get my second one. That's a lot of variance in the time it takes to get a specific gem! Hopefully this gives you a decent idea of what you're getting yourself into if you're thinking about farming offshape Bloodtinge gems.

Farm NPC Hunters in FRC Loran 6q77zr9h [by altairnaruhodou]

  • FRC Lower Loran 6q77zr9h is absolutely one of the most amazing chalices ever generated, and I'll tell you why.

  • Though it is mostly famous for Abhorrent Beast farming in Layer 3, I found this chalice here on reddit when I was in need of higher damage for my BL4 character. The post recommends it for easy Bone Ash farming in Layer 1.

  • What I discovered by going on, however, is that Layer 2 of this dungeon contains a Bone Ash, Cainhurst and Beast Claw Hunter who can all be cheesed in ridiculously easy ways without your character getting a single scratch.

The advantages


  • These hunters respectively drop radial, triangular and waning gems, offering you a ridiculously quick farming route for all common gem slots.

  • These hunters drop all kinds of gems, all with a main stat plus a secondary stat and a random curse. Mostly, though, they drop powerful Elemental gems, which are much harder to farm in certain shapes than Phys gems (especially radials).

  • Depending on your stats, these gems can be as or more powerful than FRC Depth 5 boss drops, and in a lot of cases they make very little difference.

  • This is a way faster and easier method compared to boss farming, which makes it invaluable for lower level builds.

You may need this chalice if


  • you have an ARC build who needs very diverse and powerful Elemental gems early on, to be able to farm bosses later.

  • you have a BL4 or low-BL character who needs powerful Physical or Elemental gems and still has a hard time killing Depth 5 bosses.

The basics


  • Glyph: 6q77zr9h

  • Type: Foetid - Rotted - Cursed Lower Loran Root chalice, Layer 2

  • Accessibility: PS+ subscription required, access available after 1. generating Root chalices of any kind with the FRC rituals 2. buying Sinister Lower Loran chalice OR after defeating Darkbeast Paarl in Lower Loran Layer 3. I discovered this trick during my BL4 run.

The videos


  • Bone Ash Hunter and Cainhurst Hunter method
  • Beast Claw Hunter method

The strategy


  • This farming location is the main structure of Layer 2. Bone Ash and Cainhurst are before the boss door, whereas Beast Claw guards the arena proper. They require two different strategies, which I am going to explain separately.

  • Bone Ash Hunter and Cainhurst Hunter

  • The reason why the two are so easy to exploit is that this layer features a boulder trap, just straight ahead from the layer lamp. Bone Ash and Cainhurst stand, far from each other, in a circular room at the farther end of the boulder corridor. If you learn to exploit the trap timing, the boulders will lay them flat for you, giving you amazing gems in return.

  • Notable fact: a dormant Beast-Possessed Soul is right outside the lamp room. It can be farmed for strong Triangulars or kept as an emergency ally against the hunters.

  • The boulder trap is right in front of the layer lamp, but behind a one-way door that you can open by circling around it. From the lamp, you will find the door to the boss on your left; on the right is the path you want to take. Turn right then, and you'll find yourself on a bridge with a lone Loran beast. Past the beast: you will turn right again and find the boulder trap in front of you. On the far end where the boulder falls, there is the room with the hunters. Go instead where the boulder falls from, and open the wooden door behind it; you will be in a circular room with a ladder, and the one-way metal door will be right in front of you. Open the shortcut - and happy farming!

  • As shown in the video, farming these gems requires some use of timing. The trick to exploiting this boulder trap successfully is to cross the corridor and lie in wait in the doorway before the hunters' room, until just a moment before the boulder rolls at your back. When you hear the boulder falling, wait around three seconds, and shoot Bone Ash to catch her attention. She will start chasing you immediately, and you will run towards the halfway safe spot of the boulder corridor, where you arrived from.

  • This will leave you a much shorter window to reach the middle corridor and get to safety, but it also means Bone Ash will have less time to catch up with you before the boulder lays her flat - preventing her from following you to safety.

  • Once she is on the ground, run very fast to the beginning of the corridor, past the falling boulders, and let them do the rest of the work from your awesome safe spot. Shoot occasionally to slow her down if needed.

  • In case she gets out of the corridor, past the boulder, run away as far as you can, and fast. She will slowly walk back to her position once you're out of sight, and will become a pancake/almost die on the way. Then you can rinse and repeat.

  • You can repeat for Cainhurst hunter, but be careful - his projectiles are all one-shots, and he tends to return to his spot more than Bone Ash. If nothing else, he runs less, and will be more inclined to be killed.

  • The hunters die in 2-3 boulder hits, depending on how you behave.

  • Beast Claw Hunter

  • When you feel like moving forward, you can walk to the other end of the layer, and surprise! You will notice a Beast Claw Hunter stands in the way, right in front of the boss door. He can be a nuisance, but as long as you kite him away and cross the fog wall, you should have no issues.

  • What you need to do now is beat the Loran Silverbeast which is boss of Layer 2 . Though you must be careful with the one-shot jumps he does, Silverbeast is a very weak boss, and once you dodge him you should just need a couple of Fire radials from Bone Ash to utterly devastate him.

  • Congratulations! You unlocked the Layer 2: Heart lamp, which is what you need to farm this hunter.

  • Now, whenever you spawn at the Silverbeast lamp, Beast Claw will be facing the emptiness of the corridor, and the door of the arena will leave him open him to an incredibly easy backstab. But it isn't all: he cannot get inside the arena, due to an invisible wall.

  • So backstab him, get away behind a column, let him calm down and repeat. He will be dead in no time.

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