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Simon, Seeker of Secrets


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  • Basic Information
  • Description
  • Location
  • Stats & Equipment
  • Progression
  • Strategy
  • Notes
  • Acquired Items
  • Dialogues


Basic Information

Location HP Blood Echoes Icon Physical VS blunt VS Thrust Blood Arcane Fire Bolt Slow Poison RES Rapid Poison RES VS Beasts VS Kin
Hunter's Nightmare 2925 8547 276 194 211 228 252 211 244 214 206 - -
Research Hall 2925 8547 276 194 211 228 252 211 244 214 206 - -
Fishing Hamlet 1896 2137 276 194 211 228 252 211 244 222 214 - -
► Defenses: Physical, Blunt, Thrust, Blood, Arcane, Fire and Bolt. Resistances: Slow Poison and Rapid Poison. Bonuses: Beasts & Kin.
Location & Discovery Drop & [Rate]
All locations Simon's Bowblade [100%]
Holy Moonlight Sword [100%] (quest step 02)
+ Blood Dreg x1 [100%] when Corruption is equipped
Multipliers Bonuses Weak against Additional Information
HP Multiplier1Is beastNoLowest defense: Blunt
Arcane Damage Multiplier1Is kinNo
Fire Damage Multiplier1Is weak to serratedNo
Bolt Damage Multiplier1Is weak to righteousNo

Simon, Seeker of Secrets ❘

NPC

Description

    Simon, one of the first Healing Church hunters.

    Simon despised firearms, and so the Church workshop had
    bowblade specially fashioned to his liking. The large curved blade
    serves as a bow when transformed.
  • A mysterious figure encountered in the Hunter's Nightmare. Although his outward appearance suggests a destitute beggar, his presence in the nightmare and his apparent preoccupation with secrets betray some manner of hidden agenda. In order to reach his initial location, you'll need to loop back through the Chapel Tunnel from the River of Blood; depending upon your actions he may or may not appear at the Underground Corpse Pile after defeating Ludwig, but as long as you speak to express your interest in nightmares to him before clearing that boss battle, you'll find him on the floor of the Lighthouse Hut in the Fishing Hamlet.

Location

  • Hunter's Nightmare Chapel Tunnel in Nightmare Chapel and Underground Corpse Pile after defeating Ludwig.
  • Research Hall Entrance right next to area lamp.
  • Fishing Hamlet inside Lighthouse Hut.

Stats & Equipment

  • Tables below consist of datamined stats and equipment, this specific information is for NPCs, hunters or less, that uses a player-like human model and skeleton, practically every NPC that can be equipped with player's gears. Some characters are equipped with items that they aren't programmed to use by the AI, such items are highlighted. All characters have infinite Quicksilver Bullets and 99 copies of any item they hold (including Blood Vials) and the only thing that prevents from infinitely consuming them is written in their AI script. For information about all characters visit Datamined NPCs Stats & Equipment wiki page.
Character Stats Data
Location Blood Level Vitality Endurance Strength Skill Bloodtinge Arcane
Hunter's Nightmare 97 50 17 10 30 30 10
Hunter's Nightmare Pile 107 50 21 10 32 32 12
Research Hall 116 50 21 10 35 35 15
Fishing Hamlet 98 35 20 23 31 8 31
Character Equipment (Right & Left Hand Weapons) Data
Right Hand 1 Bare Hands
None (unused)
Head Harrowed Hood
Weakness: Blunt / Blood
Right Hand 2 Simon's Bowblade +8
Damage: Phys. / Thrust / Blood
Chest Harrowed Garb
Weakness: Blunt
Left Hand 1 Bare Hands
None (unused)
Hands Harrowed Gloves
Weakness: Blunt / Thrust / Fire
Left Hand 2 Fist of Gratia +8
Damage: Blunt
Legs Harrowed Trousers
Weakness: Blunt / Thrust / Fire
Character Equipment (Items) Data
Item 1 Throwing Knife
(unused)
Item 3 None
-
Item 2 None
-
Item 4 None
-
Note:Simon, Seeker of Secrets has Throwing Knife (unused) only in Fishing Hamlet.

Progression

1.
Hunter's Nightmare Nightmare Chapel [Night / Blood Moon]
Circle back through the hall behind the locked door in the Nightmare Chapel to find him. Tell him you're interested in the nightmare to advance his quest.
2.
Hunter's Nightmare Underground Corpse Pile [Night / Blood Moon]
Defeat Ludwig, then speak to his head while equipped Healing Church attire in your body slot and answer "no." Reload the area to find Simon standing next to Ludwig's head; speak to him and he will give you the Holy Moonlight Sword. This step will be automatically skipped if you don't speak to the Seeker before defeating Ludwig, or if you tell Ludwig's head "yes" or speak to him when not wearing Church attire. Beware! Holy Moonlight Sword is missable if you didn't get it from Ludwig Head and progressed Simon's questline past Hunter's Underground Corpse Pile (after he kills the head).
3.
Research Hall Entrance [Night / Blood Moon]
If you answered "No" to Ludwig while wearing Church attire and received the Holy Moonlight Sword from Simon, he will be waiting at the Research Hall Lamp when you arrive. He will offer a few additional lines of dialogue, but no new rewards. If you handled Step 2 in any other way, the Seeker will not be present in this location and the quest will skip to Step 4.
4.
Fishing Hamlet Lighthouse Hut [Night / Blood Moon]
Defeat Maria and make your way to the Lighthouse Hut. Simon will be inside lying on the ground directly to the right of the entrance; speak to him to obtain Simon's Bowblade and the Underground Cell Inner Chamber Key. If Simon has already been killed or if you did not start his quest before this point, the key will instead be located on a corpse near the Lamp.

Strategy

  • Simon doesn't use standard firearms, wielding instead the Fist of Gratia and Simon's Bowblade. The Bowblade becomes a completely different type of ranged weapon in its transformed mode, however, and he will alternate between peppering you with ranged attacks and striking up close with the blade's sword form. His attacks are relatively weak compared to other NPCs and ordinary R1 combos are effective, he can be interrupted when using close-range attacks but attempting to do so while his weapon is in bow mode will almost always result in the two of you trading shots, which can prevent you from being able to follow through with a visceral attack in time. While he has relatively low health compared to other enemy Hunters in the Hunter's Nightmare, he can still put up a respectable fight if you attempt to kill him early in the game.
  • Easy Strategy: This one exploits Simon's AI (in Hunter's Nightmare) when you leave his aggro range through the chapel's door he will position himself with his back towards you which allows you to land an easy backstab and full R1 combo, this can be repeated until he dies. [video]

Notes

  • This NPC is part of The Old Hunters DLC.
  • Healing Church clothing, to earn Ludwig's head trust and to recognize you as a member of the church, you must equip one of the following pieces of "Body" attire before initiating conversation: Black Church Garb, White Church Garb, Choir Garb, Executioner Garb, Tomb Prospector Garb or Gascoigne's Garb.
  • Even if you have finished the DLC and didn't interacted with Simon at all, you can still talk to him at his starting location in Hunter's Nightmare Nightmare Chapel and choose "Nightmares are fascinating". After that you can find Simon at his ending location in Fishing Hamlet Lighthouse Hut and get Simon's Bowblade.
  • You'll receive Blood Dreg (Corruption equipped) from Simon, Seeker of Secrets death at the end of his quest in Fishing Hamlet.
  • Using Choir Bell on any human NPCs will get them 'hurt' [damage animation] by it and non-humans get healed. Therefore using Choir Bell to heal injured Eileen in front of Grand Cathedral will kill her instead, as she is programmed to die from any registered hit even though Choir Bell deal 0 damage. Same will apply to head of the Ludwig after defeating him in Underground Corpse Pile in Hunter's Nightmare and wounded Simon, Seeker of Secrets in Lighthouse Hut in Fishing Hamlet. Also you can use it to heal "special character" Beast-possessed Soul to assist you in Chalice Dungeons.

Simon, Seeker of Secrets
The Old Hunters DLC
Simon Datamined exact values of Face Data for character creation; view on - Sliders - page. Sliders are the bars you manipulate at the beginning of the game [character creation] that change your character's appearance.

Cooperation & NPCs


  • Note that cooperators can not damage the NPCs, as they only see the transparent silhouette of it. Therefore if you make the NPC hostile your cooperator isn't able to help you other than to "body block" it.

Acquired Items

Image Item Amount Requirements
Holy Moonlight Sword 1 Speak to Simon before defeating Ludwig. Tell Simon that you're interested in the nightmare. Defeat Ludwig and speak to him while wearing Healing Church attire, then reload the area and speak with Simon to receive the sword; also it can be received automatically if Simon's killed before he gives it to you in the Underground Corpse Pile. It can still be obtained directly from Ludwig if you do not complete Step 2 of the Seeker's.
Simon's Bowblade 1 Complete Simon's quest through Step 3 or kill him at any point before then to obtain the Bowblade.
Underground Cell Inner Chamber Key 1 Complete Simon's quest through Step 3. You will receive the key (upon his death) if he survives to this point; otherwise you'll find it on his corpse in the same room.
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More Information
If you want to know more about dialogues visit the page Dialogue Reference which contains the whole datamined dialogue script (used & unused) for all characters from the game. Simon, Seeker of Secrets does have unused dialogue.
Also you can look over to the Datamined EN & JP Dialogue Comparison page which has all dialogues (used & unused) from the base game and DLC, both languages EN & JP are compared side by side.
x button
First encounter
You're a hunter with your sanity, aren't you? Must've taken a wrong turn then, eh? Well, we're more alike than you think. This is the Hunter's Nightmare, where hunters end up when drunk with blood. You've seen them before. Aimless, wandering hunters, slavering like beasts. This is what the poor fools have to look forward to. So, don't be brash, turn back before it's too late. Unless, you've something of an interest in nightmares?
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Select "Nightmares are fascinating"
Ahh, yes, I see... You sense a secret within the Nightmare, and cannot bear to leave it be. As if the spirit of Byrgenwerth lives on within you! Such inquisitive hunters will relish the Nightmare. But beware, secrets are secrets for a reason. And some do not wish to see them uncovered. Especially when the secrets are particularly unseemly...
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Talk again
Beware, secrets are secrets for a reason. And some do not wish to be discovered. Especially when the secrets are particularly unseemly...
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Select "I've no interest"
Yes, as it should be. Hunt your beasts, and think no more on the secrets of the night. That is the very best a hunter can do. Just don't let the blood intoxicate you.
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Talk again
What now? Take my word, and turn back before it's too late. Unless, I suppose, you've taken an interest in nightmares?
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Second encounter (Ludwig Head dead)
A tragic figure. But he will shame himself no longer. He died with his ideals untarnished. He was a true hero, and earnt that much, at least.
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Second encounter (Ludwig Head alive)
Oh, he's well and truly gone, now. A tragic figure. But he will shame himself no longer. He died with his ideals untarnished. He was a true hero, and earnt that much, at least. Here, this is Ludwig's guiding light. The blinding thread that led, and misled, that consummate hero. The poor brute.
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Talk again
Do you know why the Hunters are drawn to this Nightmare? Because it sprouted from their very misdeeds. Things that some would rather keep secret. A pitiful take of petty arrogance, really. High time someone exposed the whole charade.
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Talk again
Now, now, go on ahead. You seek nightmare, and the secrets within, do you not?
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Third encounter
Oh, hello. Not a pretty sight, is it? The true face of the blood-worshiping, beast-purging Healing Church. But that's not all. You seek the secrets held by the Nightmare, do you not? Then here's what you must do. ...Climb the Astral Clocktower, and kill Maria. She hides the real secret...
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Talk again
Go on, kill Maria atop the Astral Clocktower. She hides the real secret...
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Fourth encounter
...Oh, you, I'm afraid, I've made a botch of things... ...I can hear the bell, now... ...The beast-hide assassin, he's after me... ...Again and again... ...It never ends...
x button
Talk again
...Please, I need you to do something... ...This village is the true secret. Testament to the old sins... ...It feeds this Hunter's Nightmare... ...Please, bring to an end the horror... ...So our forefathers sinned? ...We hunters cannot bear their weight forever... ...It isn't fair, it just isn't fair...
r1 button
Attacked
Tsk! Taken by the Nightmare, are you? Then I've no choice. Prepare yourself!
r1 button
Upon death
Curses. What a rotten place to die...
r1 button
Killing player
Terribly sorry, but I couldn't let you stop me...
r1 button
Attacked in Underground Corpse Pile (before receiving the Holy Moonlight Sword)
What is this, some petty revenge? You would kill for secrets, and still think yourself good of heart? What a joke, you filthy hypocrite! It'll be my pleasure to finish you off!
r1 button
Upon death in Underground Corpse Pile (before receiving the Holy Moonlight Sword)
...You're no different... Another blood-stained, wretched hypocrite.
r1 button
Killing player in Underground Corpse Pile (before receiving the Holy Moonlight Sword)
What a sham you were, from beginning to end.
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